Headlight low beams

[Spasso]

Actually, there is another source for the 9011 low beam bulb, JOHN DEERE. Yes, JD specs the Toshiba 9011 low beam bulb for one of it tractors. What more, JD only charged $9.99 each!

However, the word got out to the Toyota/Subaru/Chevy/Ford crowds and JD got swamped. By the time I found out, just about every JD HIR bulb was sold out nationwide. Further, JD figured out what was happening and with new stock expected around March 3, prices have now gone up retailing something like $23.99. If you're interested JD p/n is AH211917.

For the highs, the Chevy is suppose to have spec'ed the 9012 HIR bulb for the Avalanche. IF so, you can get the Avalanche bulb for as little as $18.

Unfortunately, I've heard from either a toyota or corvette forum that it may not be the Toshiba HIR bulbs. Can anyone confirm whether it is?

According to the John Deere threads elsewhere in this forum John Deere only supplied the HIR 9012 LOW BEAM bulb.

GM supplied the HIR 9011 for the HIGHBEAM position ONLY in their trucks. (Taken from another thread).
I have seen repeatedly in other related threads that sources OTHER THAN John Deere was the only place to get the HIR 9011 HIGH BEAM bulb.

It's my understanding the HIR 9011 IS the HIGH BEAM bulb or I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to modify them to fit my low beam sockets.

If I am wrong and the HIR 9012 IS the high beam then these HIR 9011's are the frigging brightest LOWBEAM 65 watt bulbs I've ever seen.

[bfd]

According to the John Deere threads elsewhere in this forum John Deere only supplied the HIR 9012 LOW BEAM bulb.

GM supplied the HIR 9011 for the HIGHBEAM position ONLY in their trucks. (Taken from another thread).
I have seen repeatedly in other related threads that sources OTHER THAN John Deere was the only place to get the HIR 9011 HIGH BEAM bulb.

It's my understanding the HIR 9011 IS the HIGH BEAM bulb or I wouldn't have gone to the trouble to modify them to fit my low beam sockets.

If I am wrong and the HIR 9012 IS the high beam then these HIR 9011's are the frigging brightest LOWBEAM 65 watt bulbs I've ever seen.

YES, you are correct, my bad. The John Deere HIR bulb is the 9012 LOW BEAM bulb.

So, based on the above, is the Chevy Avalanche high beam bulb, a true Toshiba/Harrison (GE Designed) 9011 HIGH BEAM bulb?

If so, go to gmpartsdirect.com and order p/n 15094219, you can get the 9011 HIGH BEAM bulb for $18.81 each.

[JMI]

Spasso, thanks for the reply.
One more question if you don't mind. Was planning on keeping my "standard" bulbs in the High beams because they work OK (9005). Will the new 9011's in my "low" beams be brighter then my 9005 high beams?

TIA

Jim

[Spasso]

YES, you are correct, my bad. The John Deere HIR bulb is the 9012 LOW BEAM bulb.

So, based on the above, is the Chevy Avalanche high beam bulb, a true Toshiba/Harrison (GE Designed) 9011 HIGH BEAM bulb?

If so, go to gmpartsdirect.com and order p/n 15094219, you can get the 9011 HIGH BEAM bulb for $18.81 each.

I think it is safe to bet that if you order the OEM HIR 9011 from GM you'll get the Toshiba/Harrison.

The next set I get I'll go to the dealer for that price, 18.81 ain't bad. I paid 26.00 including shipping on ebay.

Have to make sure of the part number though so I don't get the LOW BEAM bulb.

[bfd]

I think it is safe to bet that if you order the OEM HIR 9011 from GM you'll get the Toshiba/Harrison.

The next set I get I'll go to the dealer for that price, 18.81 ain't bad. I paid 26.00 including shipping on ebay.

Have to make sure of the part number though so I don't get the LOW BEAM bulb.

Yow, I just read a couple of Chevy sites and it appears that gmpartsdirect.com does not appear to be selling the Toshiba 9011 HIR bulbs. One guy ordered a set and got an 65w AC Delco/Phillips bulb that he said was definitely not a Toshiba HIR. Interestingly, he said the bulb had 9011 and HIR marked on it, so BEWARE!

I agree that a Chevy/GM dealer selling OE parts, will probably sell a Toshiba bulb. Problem for me is of the 3 dealers I called in my area, SF Bay Area, anone of them stocked this bulb and would have t special order it. Further, all the dealers had a list price of $36 and said $18 was way low.

Can you get a good 40-50% discount at your local Chevy/GM dealer? If so, you want the 2003-05 Avalanche HIGH BEAM bulb, p/n 15094219. I wonder if any of the local junkyards would have the bulb in stock....Good Luck!

[Spasso]

Spasso, thanks for the reply.
One more question if you don't mind. Was planning on keeping my "standard" bulbs in the High beams because they work OK (9005). Will the new 9011's in my "low" beams be brighter then my 9005 high beams?

TIA

Jim

Because the different purpose and desired result that drives the design of the high beam lens, the 9005's in my high beams are like the "Midnight Sun" compared to the HIR 9011's in the low beam position thanks to the stupid "fisheye" design. The HIR 9011's are NOT brighter than my 9005 highbeams as a result. I have considered installing HIR 9011's in my HIGHBEAM positions as well, (insert evil laugh here...............)

The low beam lens controls and focuses the light in a more restricted pattern than the high beams, no worries there. Just make sure the elevation of the light beam is correct with 1/2 tank of gas and and a little extra weight in the back or you'll be pissing off a lot of on-coming traffic, including me.

Here's how to do it, Headlight Adjust
The adjuster screws can be accessed through two small holes in the lower section of the black plastic grill pieces between the high and lowbeam lenses. The screws on mine are Phillips. You'll need a flashlight to look into the little holes to find the screw heads. Turning the screw counter-clockwise will RAISE the beam, turning clockwise will LOWER the beam.

Side to side adjustments are done from under the hood. I didn't touch those. No need to.

I am running Wagner Brite White 9005's in my high beams AND I also converted my fog lights to use the 9005's, not that it makes that much difference, (makes it easier to see the road kill on the shoulder is about all)

Hope this helps,
DJ

[Spasso]

Yow, I just read a couple of Chevy sites and it appears that gmpartsdirect.com does not appear to be selling the Toshiba 9011 HIR bulbs. One guy ordered a set and got an 65w AC Delco/Phillips bulb that he said was definitely not a Toshiba HIR. Interestingly, he said the bulb had 9011 and HIR marked on it, so BEWARE!

I agree that a Chevy/GM dealer selling OE parts, will probably sell a Toshiba bulb. Problem for me is of the 3 dealers I called in my area, SF Bay Area, anone of them stocked this bulb and would have t special order it. Further, all the dealers had a list price of $36 and said $18 was way low.

Can you get a good 40-50% discount at your local Chevy/GM dealer? If so, you want the 2003-05 Avalanche HIGH BEAM bulb, p/n 15094219. I wonder if any of the local junkyards would have the bulb in stock....Good Luck!

I guess I don't feel so bad paying what I did on ebay, 26.95 each plus 5.00 shipping..
Here is the link to the ebay ad 9011/9012 Toshiba Bulbs
and here is what mine look like;



Good luck in the salvage yards but that might pay off hansomely if you can find the right trucks.

[Spasso]

He notes that these are direct from the Toshiba Factory. NO warranty.

" When you order, please specify how many bulbs of each type you require. Send me an email to maxlumens@finemotoring.com if you like. For instance, many cars could use two 9011 high beams and two 9012 low beams. You can call them 9005 and 9006 if you like, or just high or low; I confirm each order by email before shipping. You never have to worry about ordering the wrong bulbs, and I always combine shipping to guarantee the lowest postage.

All bulbs are brand new, never installed, direct from the Toshiba factory. They are very rugged and solidly built, as light bulbs go. Sorry, but there is no warranty on a light bulb, and all sales should be considered final. If you have any question about whether a bulb will fit in your car, ask me. I only have the two bulb types, HIR 9011 and HIR 9012, which can replace 9005 and 9006. I don't know of any other automotive bulb types available with the HIR technology at this time. You should treat offers that claim otherwise with caution.

THE BULBS ARE $26.95 EACH, PER SINGLE BULB, NOT PER PAIR!!!!!

BTW, I am not associated with this product, just glad they are available!!!!

[Spasso]

I think it is safe to bet that if you order the OEM HIR 9011 from GM you'll get the Toshiba/Harrison.

The next set I get I'll go to the dealer for that price, 18.81 ain't bad. I paid 26.00 including shipping on ebay.

Have to make sure of the part number though so I don't get the LOW BEAM bulb.

I have been informed by a qualified source with additional information that may help clarify design source and product accuracy when purchasing from whom,


"It was GE that developed the HIR process. They still make lots of HIR bulbs, just not for cars. The logic of the GE engineers was that incandescent car bulbs are history, and HID or LED are the future of auto lights. There was a Mercedes concept car at the Detroit show last month with LED headlights.

The Philips bulb sold at Chevy dealers is HIR in name only. The way the DOT specification was written left a big loophole for bulb makers, and Philips exploited it. No law against that, but those bulbs, while of good quality and brightness, do not employ any Halogen Infrared Reflecting technology at all. They're just ordinary halogens with particular base tabs."

Sounds to me that direct purchase from Toshiba or a Toshiba bulb distributor is the only way to get a "REAL" HIR bulb of original design and quality. I am told John Deere sells the REAL Toshiba bulb but only in the 9012 model.

I have also been reminded that any modifications are the sole responsibility of the purchaser and and not provided by or approved by ANY lighting distributor in this country.

I hope this clears things up for everyone.

As I said before, I am not a vendor, I am not associated with the distribution of these bulbs, I am a BUYER and like to see the little guy win without paying through the nose.

[Robert K]

It just so happens that I have tried both the Sylvania XtraVision 9005 high beams and the Toshiba 9012 HIR low beams. As someone else stated, the lumens are 1700 for the first and 1875 for the second. To be honest, I thought the Sylvanias were brighter, so I sold the Toshiba bulbs. The great part was that I bought them at the local John Deere dealer and ended up selling them on Ebay for more than I paid for them. How's that for living right?

Grace and peace,

Robert K
1991 535i