First TCD e34 M30 Turbo Kit Delivered today.

[TCD]

Thanks to one of the board members who pushed us to speed up development and deliver the kit earlier than anticipated. I am sure you'll here his thoughts on the kit next week.

Turbo Kit Pic 1

Turbo Kit Pic 2

e34 Turbo Exhaust

Thanks,
Todd

[Jeff N.]

OK - anyone wanna confess who's doing this?

[Scott H]

hmmmm.....should be interesting

[Jeff N.]

hmmmm.....should be interesting

[George M]

Todd...what is the system config? Is this a turn key turbo kit?. How about some dope on engine management/fuel deliver etc. Don't like the idea of running a turbo on a M-30 without a knock sensor as timing and amount of fuel are critical to engine durability when boosted.
Thanks.

[TCD]

Todd...what is the system config? Is this a turn key turbo kit?. How about some dope on engine management/fuel deliver etc. Don't like the idea of running a turbo on a M-30 without a knock sensor as timing and amount of fuel are critical to engine durability when boosted.
Thanks.

Yes, it's turn key. Software is under development and will be included in the kit. This customer did not require the software. The kit uses 30lb injectors and a FMU for fuel delivery.

In the hands of a intelligent Owner, detonation is not an issue. Boost is set at levels well below those that would cause detonation.

Todd

[Brandon J]

hmmm, I am having trouble getting the pics

[George M]

With all due respect Todd...an intelligent owner doesn't have anything to do with a boosted motor's propensity to pre-detonate. Even the very early E-23 745i turbo factory BMW M-30 engines with dished pistons and reduced compression replete with more primitive Motronic then later NA M-30's had a knock sensor...and for good reason.
If you spend $2K on a turbo set up...the least you can do is run a knock sensor to prevent melt down, low boost or not if you get less octane than you bargained for.
An occassional chipped NA M-30 is reported to detonate on high octane fuel. Not a remote stretch for a boosted turbo motor to do the same thing with much higher consequences.

[TCD]

With all due respect Todd...an intelligent owner doesn't have anything to do with a boosted motor's propensity to pre-detonate. Even the very early E-23 745i turbo factory BMW M-30 engines with dished pistons and reduced compression replete with more primitive Motronic then later NA M-30's had a knock sensor...and for good reason.
If you spend $2K on a turbo set up...the least you can do is run a knock sensor to prevent melt down, low boost or not if you get less octane than you bargained for.
An occassional chipped NA M-30 is reported to detonate on high octane fuel. Not a remote stretch for a boosted turbo motor to do the same thing with much higher consequences.

Listen George,

We made the decision that a knock sensor is not necessary. A knock sensor in fact will not save a motor from a catastrophic failure. It is the responsibility of the Owner of the car to shut it down if detonation occurs. Detonation is painfully obvious. It is not a ghost that someone cannot hear. The motor will not mysteriously self destruct because it has no knock sensor. Yes, a knock sensor is ideal if you are running on the edge all the time but our systems are set at a very conservative psi that is nowhere near the edge.

My biggest battle is convincing people that we know what we are doing. To each his own. No problem.

Todd

[Craig]

My biggest battle is convincing people that we know what we are doing. To each his own. No problem.

Haha, this seems to happen quite a bit. Todd, you should make up a standard disclaimer that you post each time you mention your turbo kit, kind of like Shawn D's "E28 air vent diagram" that he uses.

George-

Todd's done a shitload of turbos on M30 motors- I doubt there is anyone around anywhere with more firsthand M30 turbo experience than him.

To everyone else- go to mye28.com and ask about Todd. Do a search there for his posts and you'll see he's not making a "slipshod" product here. Todd's kits are at least as good as any other- and the Kormann kit makes the same boost levels but I don't see people here running about calling it "****." Even though for some unknown reason I'm building my own turbo kit, if I were shopping I'd buy Todd's without hesitation.