First TCD e34 M30 Turbo Kit Delivered today.

[George M]

JPS...you are a joke. You don't need a fully programmable engine management and spend thousands of dollars to make for a successful turbo install on a stock M-30...but you do need better engine management. Chastise a system...your system?
Why should I go on? TCD set the tone in his response to my original question which started this whole mess. You JPS have only confirmed what a prospective customer would be facing in dealing with your company God forbid if anyone on this board were to purchase one of your systems.
Craig...you better handle the PR for TCD and JPS. Waiting for OCD and GPS to weigh in next.
Have fun selling your turbo set ups boys...you have made a real good first impression and successful presentation to this board.
You're fired....lol.

[rickm]

[George M]

Thank you...may I have another...hehe.

[Brandon J]

JPS and TCD,

You are regulars at mye28 so you do understand what happens to new people who come in to promote or sell a product. Heck, we even hate it when people we know self promote their products. We are not the typical young group of guys who react to hearsay. We act with skepticism as we should. We question the likes of Dinan, Metric Mechanic, and even BMW. So, when you see us questioning about your kit and you don't like it, you obviously must be new. I personally would like to see the dynos (or several of them over an extended period of time) and raw data. Also, seeing the wear and the condition of the valves of a disassembled engine that used the kit for an extended peiod of time/miles would be great too. Numbers are great and can speak for themselves, but one must be cautious to interpret the numbers. Oh, that "paper" would acutually be beneficial for the many of hundreds of viewers that this board sees not just for George M.

For your sake, I would get collected and not rush into promoting your product until you are ready.

[Brandon J]

Waiting for OCD and GPS to weigh in next.

ROFL, that is too funny.

[bahnstormer]

guys guys take it easy!

i'm interested in 100+ rwhp for my car anyday...
when will u have more information?

[JPS]

JPS and TCD,

You are regulars at mye28 so you do understand what happens to new people who come in to promote or sell a product. Heck, we even hate it when people we know self promote their products. We are not the typical young group of guys who react to hearsay. We act with skepticism as we should. We question the likes of Dinan, Metric Mechanic, and even BMW. So, when you see us questioning and don't like it, you obviously must be new. I personally would like to see the dynos (or several of them over an extended period of time) and raw data. Also, seeing the wear and the condition of the valves of a disassembled engine that used the kit for an extended peiod of time and miles would be great too. Numbers are great and can speak for themselves, but one must be cautious to interpret the numbers. Oh, that "paper" would acutually be beneficial for the many of hundreds of viewers that this board sees not just for George M.

For your sake, I would get collected and not rush into promoting your product until you are ready.

Understood, Brandon.
I'm just defending the fact that the system can be safely operated without a knock sensor system in place. Questioning is fine and encouraged. Todd responded to Georges insistance that knock control be in place then George pushed it and frankly, acted like an ass.
We post every bit of info we acquire from testing, good and bad. If these things chew up engines, it will be posted. Our first run is sold, mostly to friend and aquaintences. I would not sacrafice those relationships to sell kits.
I recently replaced the headgasket on my engine ('86 635 TwinTurbo) with 150+K miles on it, 32K with 18psi boost. The pistons, valves, combustion chambers looked absolutely fine. It idles at 18inHg vacuum and delivers 24mpg combined city/highway. I drive it 400+ miles/wk. If boosting these engines caused major problems, I wouldn't promote the system.
This little business grew out of our hobby (doing this to our own cars) and a market emerged that we decided to persue.
Cheers,
John Sweeney

[JPS]

JPS...you are a joke. You don't need a fully programmable engine management and spend thousands of dollars to make for a successful turbo install on a stock M-30...but you do need better engine management. Chastise a system...your system?
Why should I go on? TCD set the tone in his response to my original question which started this whole mess. You JPS have only confirmed what a prospective customer would be facing in dealing with your company God forbid if anyone on this board were to purchase one of your systems.
Craig...you better handle the PR for TCD and JPS. Waiting for OCD and GPS to weigh in next.
Have fun selling your turbo set ups boys...you have made a real good first impression and successful presentation to this board.
You're fired....lol.

Perhaps I am a joke, George, but, I can at least read. Of course you don't NEED a programable system, I never stated that you did. Of course you need to modify the engine management if you're adding more air... who implied that you don't? This is why the kits include larger injectors and will have remapped chips. If you want to go above and beyond what the supplied system is designed for then you better well have a programable system. If you want to run with an optomized tune, yes, you better run a knock feedback system for safety. But, can you run reasonably well with a lightly modified stock system? Yes, you can, and that is what we are offering.
George, if I have confirmed what prospective customer is facing in dealing with us then you surely have confirmed you maturity level with your amateurish response.

[JPS]

guys guys take it easy!

i'm interested in 100+ rwhp for my car anyday...
when will u have more information?

What we have now is a '92 535 5sp with the non-intercooled system running around MA. It also has a full 3"exhaust which we just had the jigs built for so that it can produced with minimal welds of mandrel bent tube.
At present it's running 8-9psi boost and dynoed at 283whp. We are working with Bell Intercoolers on an intercooler design as the one for the E24/E28 will not fit the E34 engine bay. Once intercooled we will test with higher boost levels (12-15psi) which should bring the power into the 325-350whp range.
You can contact Todd via the TCD website for more info.
Cheers,

[bahnstormer]

thanks jps, i just sent you a PM but that was b4 i read this response....
running around MA mean massachooo right?
i'm in jersey... =]