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Thread: M20B25 compression without opening the engine?

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    Default M20B25 compression without opening the engine?

    Hi guys, is there any way to know the compression ratio of the engine, without opening it?


    My car was manufactured on nov 1988, its a euro 525i, no cat. Thanks for any help.




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    Vehicle Identification Number WBAHC210904237760
    Type HC21
    Model 525i - EUR
    Development Code E34
    Chassis LIM
    Steering LL
    Doors 4
    Engine M20
    Displacement 2.50
    Power 125
    Drivetrain HECK
    Transmission AUT
    Color Royalblau Metallic - 198
    Upholstery Indigo Leder - 0293
    Production Plant
    Production Date 1988-11-14


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    E34 525i '88

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    9.7:1
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    Sh*t, i thought so ... there goes my easy way to boost it. i guess ill add a thick MLS gasket to the shopping list.

    thx for the reply.

    E34 525i '88

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote_ar View Post
    Sh*t, i thought so ... there goes my easy way to boost it. i guess ill add a thick MLS gasket to the shopping list.

    thx for the reply.
    How thick would a gasket have to be to drop compression by 1 unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustam View Post
    How thick would a gasket have to be to drop compression by 1 unit?
    Appx .030 in

    Edit .030 is appx .5 points so .060 is around 1 point.
    Last edited by 632 Regal; 11-26-2017 at 03:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 632 Regal View Post
    Appx .030 in
    Doesn't make sense. .03" is a hundredth of the piston's travel between TDC and BDC:
    .03" = .75mm
    M20 Stroke = 75mm = 100*.75
    (Also had some beer so maybe thinking out of place. Would have to do normal calculations)
    Last edited by Rustam; 11-25-2017 at 04:02 AM.

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    To lower compression to 8.0:1 for example, additional 2.1 MILLIMETERS must be provided. Got calculations, cannot upload through smartphone. Will upload once I get the computer connected to internet in another room.
    SO, it seems Jeff, you ARE RIGHT. I should have calculated for 8.7:1 for a unit drop as I asked earlier, but it seemed that compression is not applealing as a turbochargeable one , so did 8.0:1 example.
    Last edited by Rustam; 11-27-2017 at 09:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 632 Regal View Post
    Appx .030 in

    Edit .030 is appx .5 points so .060 is around 1 point.
    Good stuff.

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    Have you consider making a gasket from a copper sheet, of agiven thickness? Must be annealed

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    Thicker gaskets can simply be purchased. Many choices here:

    http://www.cometic.com/c-1280264-aut...d-gaskets.html
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