I did an upgrade to MySQL, and I ended up having to turn off vBSEO. vBSEO was good while it lasted, but it seems to not be supported any more. Not real sure what the implications are on the site. Some links might not work. We'll have to see. It's been a long night. after 2AM in the morning here. I'll be looking at this some more but likely will be off to bed soon. Hope it works just great though, keeping my fingers crossed.