Royce Manual Help Please

[93 525 Paul]

What's a Royce manual? Same as a Bentley, different cover, 20% more expensive?
Dunno. Old age I guess or owning 6 cars or...
No wonder I can't find it. I know it's got a gold cover and lots of greasy pages.

Thanks for the wtf, the suggestions and the link...

[93 525 Paul]

That M50 manual on the bmw tech info site shows nothing for head R&R and I don't see where the referred to "assembly repair manual" is on that site. Any further help would be appreciated.

[ryan roopnarine]

listen, old top, the most popular manual for the e34 is called the ferrari manual, published by robert ferrari publishers. the front cover has a picture of a big ass cow on it, like the ferrari emblem.

mash here (in excess of 75mb)
http://luuk.xs4all.nl/bmwboeken/Bent...ice_Manual.pdf

[whiskychaser]

You might find this useful:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/tech...ead-Gasket.htm

I'm just wondering what an 'old top' is

[ryan roopnarine]

You might find this useful:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/tech...ead-Gasket.htm

I'm just wondering what an 'old top' is

I don't know if you all on that side of the pond got an animated show called "king of the hill" written by the same people that did beavis and butthead. Buck Strickland occasionally calls Hank Hill "old top" to imply that he's barking up the wrong tree/worrying excessively &c. I'm not sure what exactly it means.

[93 525 Paul]

I just thought it was synonymous with "old fart"...
Thanks for the links and the help.
Very much...
Paul

[whiskychaser]

I don't know if you all on that side of the pond got an animated show called "king of the hill" written by the same people that did beavis and butthead. Buck Strickland occasionally calls Hank Hill "old top" to imply that he's barking up the wrong tree/worrying excessively &c. I'm not sure what exactly it means.

Used to enjoy King of the Hill but never knew anybody else that watched it. Perhaps why I havent seen it for a while. Shame

[93 525 Paul]

Used to enjoy King of the Hill but never knew anybody else that watched it. Perhaps why I havent seen it for a while. Shame

That is a shame, that's some of the best TV in existence.

Hey, what have folks done for sourcing the tools? Looks like at minimum I need the cam holder, the chain tensioning tool and the Torx head bolt tool. (Ever since I was a devoted BavAuto client and learned of AutohausAZ and BMA, I always ask...)
On a medium/high mileage engine like mine, what should the job include other than R&R with a HG set and new H bolts? Guessing resurfacing, valve job, guides, etc? Anybody had success with the pelican method of cam removal?

[whiskychaser]

Anybody had success with the pelican method of cam removal?

I used that method and it worked very well. While I did the job alone its probably best to have a mate hold the cam to stop it twisting. This is particularly important when putting the cam back in - the first nut wont even start to thread until you twist the cam a tiny bit off the 'sweet spot'. Hopefully the valves/guides/seats are in good shape and you wont have to bother taking the cams out

PS. If you do go ahead, can I suggest you get your HG from a dealer or from the shop that skims your head if you are having it done

[Dave M]

That is a shame, that's some of the best TV in existence.

Hey, what have folks done for sourcing the tools? Looks like at minimum I need the cam holder, the chain tensioning tool and the Torx head bolt tool. (Ever since I was a devoted BavAuto client and learned of AutohausAZ and BMA, I always ask...)
On a medium/high mileage engine like mine, what should the job include other than R&R with a HG set and new H bolts? Guessing resurfacing, valve job, guides, etc? Anybody had success with the pelican method of cam removal?

We've discussed M50 head removal witout any 'special' tools many times in the past. Try a search and you should find methods to do the head gasket using nothing but a good straight edge for cam alignment, a safety pin or equivalent for secondary chain tensioner and a regular torx ground down to fit the one or bolts that are hard to get at near the timing cover.

If you have any trouble or any more questions, pm me.

Dave