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Thread: ATF fluid change, the easy Korean way

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD525IA View Post
    I just rigged a glass chemistry vapor bottle with some rubber hose and attached my vacuum cleaner to it. The fluid was drawn out via vacuum and went into the bottle and not the vaccum because the tube attachment was about 1/2 inch below the opening of the bottle. I admit that I did warm it up before doing this so that it would flow faster.

    Wouldn't it make sense to measure the volume after it cools and then put back in the same amount, at the same cool temperature? You could also get some idea of the change in volume in the fluid at the hi/low temperatures.

    Does tranny fluid really change in volume at different temps?

    Any hoo, the whole contraption looked like some college kids hooka or bong. Matter of fact, I've got an idea!

    JD
    I'd pay to have seen that.
    "The gas pedal wouldn't go to the floor if it weren't meant to be there"

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    Does tranny fluid really change in volume at different temps?
    Of course!

    Thermal Expansion


    The volume of a given oil mass increases with temperature, therefore, its density decreases. The degree of expansion is expressed as the coefficient of thermal expansion. Thermal expansion is useful to determine the size of a container needed when the oil will be heated. Inexperienced people often have an oil overflow because of a surprising amount of thermal expansion.


    In hydrodynamic lubrication, the thermal expansion of the oil in the clearance of a bearing increases the hydraulic pressure. Some researchers discuss the "thermal wedge" mechanism of film formation and apply it to parallel sliding surfaces, especially flat, non tilting, thrust bearings.

    The coefficient of thermal expansion is the ratio of the relative change of volume to a change in temperature. Thermal expansion is expressed as the ratio of volume change to the initial volume after heating 1 degree C. Therefore, the unit is reciprocal degree C, or degree C-1. The values of the coefficient of thermal expansion for mineral oil are near 6.4 X 10-4 °C-1.

    Thermal expansion (or contraction) determinations require the measurement of the volume of a given mass of oil at various temperatures. The sample is placed in a graduated cylinder and the volume is observed as the temperature is either increased or decreased. A simplified method of calculating the thermal expansion of petroleum products can be found in ASTM D 1250, Petroleum Measurement Tables, "Volume Corrections Factors".

    http://www.pantherlubes.com/tl_6.html

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    Lot of work for nothing.

    No filter change.

    The ZF trans has drain plugs and dip stick.


    Vee ave vays of dealing vid your kind...........

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