Funny Ross! Those bolts were torqued down so much that after I dremmeled slots in them, The screwdirver, with pliers on them, simply stripped the slot. I dremmeled the whole head off, and got the palte off. I think Arnold was working at the factory that day when this car was built! lol

Thanks Austin, next I have to get that snap ring plier. Right now, the car is local (not 2 hours away anymore) so I'm going to take my time. I have a clutch to put in wifeys Z3 first.