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Thread: Shake between 55 - 60 mph but not from steering wheel.

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    Default Shake between 55 - 60 mph but not from steering wheel.

    My 525i has developed a slight shake between 55 mph to 60 mph. However, I don't feel the shake from the steering wheel. I only feel the shake from the seat (maybe the whole car)... Any ideas? All four wheels have been re-balanced. Also, if I under inflate the tires (22 psi - cold tire), the shake seem to go away or very very slight. But I don't want to drive around on a under inflated tires.

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    Default Isn't that a feature?

    I thought shake at 55-60 on the E34 was built in by BMW as a standard feature which turns itself on at 100k!

    There are any theories surrounding E34 shimmy, in my experience the front suspension of these always goes off at around 100k and every garage you visit has a different bit they replace to 'fix' the problem.

    I would suggest that although your steering wheel may not appear to be affected, the fact that if you reduce the tyre pressure would indicate that it is suspension related. Got to a decent independent BMW specialist and get them to check the front end suspension out.

    Don't know about US specs, here in the UK/Euroland we prefer things to be quite hard, whereas traditionally US don't. So BMW US might soften the suspension up for you guys, different setup etc. from UK, who knows!

    Don't ride around on tyres at 22psi! Well, in the UK tyres are 31 front 36 rear - 22 would be mighty low - but as I said, may be diff. for US.

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    ha, ha, ha...yah...it's a great feature! No problems mixing the cocoa and milk, she is the best mixer I've owned!
    '94 540I A (149K miles on orig. Nik motor) & EAT enhanced

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    I have the exact same problem. My steering wheel is fine and I know its not my thrust arms, they are new. However, I have a shake in the whole car around 55 mph. Do you have stock wheels or aftermarket? I am suspecting my aftermarket 17" wheels may be the source. I think I will try to swap the stock wheels on this weekend and take the others in for a balance.

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    I have a shake similar that might be a bent rim.... as adjusting AP up & down makes it feel different

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    Default Maybe bad tires.

    Yes, I have 17” BMW E39 wheels with hub rings (74.1-72.52). The shake has developed recently and I had the wheels for a long time. I think it’s coming from the tires. I have Falken Azenis ST-115 tires that are about three months old with 1k miles on it. I can’t believe the tires could go bad this fast. I put the old 15” back on and the shake is gone. I brought the wheels to Discount Tires and they re-balanced the wheels. They said the rims are straight and tires also look good. Then why am I getting the shake with these wheels? I think the techs from Discount Tires don’t know how to check for bad tires or am I missing something here?

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    Ok... I have the shimmy too, but my steering wheel shakes as well. The shimmy varies in intensity depending on the condition of the road I'm on.

    Could the rear subframe bushings cause this? I'm asking since my bushings were just changed 4 months ago. I haven't had the time to bring my car in for repairs so I'm still gathering as much info as possible.

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    Default Load Balancing

    There is a way to have them balanced under a load. I can't remember the name of this system, but it will place an appropriate load on the tires, and balance them under load. This accounts for some tire variance...could maybe be a solution?

    Pat Washburn
    Wausau, WI

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Yes, I have 17” BMW E39 wheels with hub rings (74.1-72.52). The shake has developed recently and I had the wheels for a long time. I think it’s coming from the tires. I have Falken Azenis ST-115 tires that are about three months old with 1k miles on it. I can’t believe the tires could go bad this fast. I put the old 15” back on and the shake is gone. I brought the wheels to Discount Tires and they re-balanced the wheels. They said the rims are straight and tires also look good. Then why am I getting the shake with these wheels? I think the techs from Discount Tires don’t know how to check for bad tires or am I missing something here?

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    Default I have a real similar setup

    I have aftermarket wheels with hubcentric rings. I don't have Falkens, but I do have Hankooks also a "Budget" tire. I am going to put my original wheels on and see if it goes away. While they are on, I am going to get my others balanced. If a balance doesn't fix it, I might try a mismatch of 2 fronts and 2 rears to see if I can isolate a problem wheel.

    I got my wheels and tires from Discount Tire. I doubt the techs there know how to check for dirt in the ground. I don't know if I want them to do this balance, I might try someone else. Also, perhaps some new hubcentric rings would help. Maybe one of them is not quite "centric" anymore.

    I'm betting its either the rings, the cheap tires, or the combination. I don't think it is a coincidence we both have the same problem with similar tires/wheels.


    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Yes, I have 17” BMW E39 wheels with hub rings (74.1-72.52). The shake has developed recently and I had the wheels for a long time. I think it’s coming from the tires. I have Falken Azenis ST-115 tires that are about three months old with 1k miles on it. I can’t believe the tires could go bad this fast. I put the old 15” back on and the shake is gone. I brought the wheels to Discount Tires and they re-balanced the wheels. They said the rims are straight and tires also look good. Then why am I getting the shake with these wheels? I think the techs from Discount Tires don’t know how to check for bad tires or am I missing something here?

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    Default I have heard of something like that

    A while ago, I was asking around about tire balancing. Someone told me about a place that had a system that would even tell you which wheel to put which tire on for the best balance. I will have to look into that again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    There is a way to have them balanced under a load. I can't remember the name of this system, but it will place an appropriate load on the tires, and balance them under load. This accounts for some tire variance...could maybe be a solution?

    Pat Washburn
    Wausau, WI

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