Oil prices - What's the breaking point for you?

[RockJock]

peak oil is a myth.. ---snip---

Inc -- Can you expand on this please, I'm interested...

[Incantation]

i did expand on it.. peak oil was created by the rich class to trounce the middle class back into poverty

oil itself does not even come from "fossils" .. that is another load of shxt created by oil companies to create the illusion of limited supply allowing them to fix prices to suit themselves.

it's a small part of a huge, complex equation.. one which i don't have time or interest to discuss on here. do some digging.. you will be surprised at what you find

[repenttokyo]

The only reason Germany went into Africa was for oil. The only reason Hitler gained power was because he offered his people a better life and they believed them. Part of that better life was economic gains

hitler went into africa for oil for his war machine because he needed it to continue the fight into russia. hem ay have offered his people a better life, but his own agenda was fueled by a hatred for non germans, particularly communists, and he could not stand sharing europe with them.

if the war had just been about economics, surely he would never have attacked russia.

[repenttokyo]

oil itself does not even come from "fossils" .. that is another load of shxt created by oil companies to create the illusion of limited supply allowing them to fix prices to suit themselves.

this is a minority opinion.

[repenttokyo]

agree to disagree

[bsell]

To be honest, I’ve never heard knowledgeable proponents of the idea of biogenic oil say that it is derived from dead dinosaurs, dinosaur poop or fossils…..

That being said, I thank you for the clarification, I get it now. Just to sum things up: All petroleum found on earth is abiogenic in origin and it comes from reservoirs that are re-charged in real-time.

All methods/techniques developed to increase recovery factors such as water flooding, solvent flooding, CO2 miscible flooding, stream injection, horizontal drilling, frac jobs…etc, etc have been invented to drain even more money from the middle class. The apparent decrease in the quality of hydrocarbon resources is completely fictitious and the planet is awash in light sweet crude.

I call BS…

I tell you what, the total crap that some folks think up and pass as gospel, I guess the oil fairy drops oil off at the refineries free of charge...

I picked up a book a couple months ago, 'The Prize' by Daniel Yergin thinking it was new and that it covered the current oil situation vis a vis Iraq/Afghanistan. Come to find out, it was published in 1991, which pissed me off as I thought I was getting a new book...'Now a major PBS series' so what.

Anyway, it is an entertaining read on the rollercoaster ride that oil and the economy it created has had since 1859. (I don't have any money connections to this book other than what I paid for it and will get to my point shortly.) I take back my ill thoughts of the book store managment for 'tricking' me into buying the book.

In many ways, it is sad to see that society has not advanced the oil conservation cause in the 30+ years since America's big wake up call that was the '70's 'oil crisis.' I am left with the feeling we squandered one hell of an opportunity to prevent the mess that is coming over the next 40 years or so.

The only real way to eliminate human kind's influence on the climate is to step back to the days before fire was 'found' by man. Which basically means, human kind must remove itself from the face of the earth for all practical purposes. I don't know anyone willing to do that, do you?

Brian

[fujioko]

My daily driver gets 40+ MPG. I cant wait till all the SUV's are crushed.

Once there was a time when the SUV/Big truck people hogged the road and tailgated... now I have noticed they are in the slow lane doing 55MPH. Soon they will be gone.

When the road is filled with econo sh**boxes then I'll complain about that too.

[healtoeit]

But for Germany - while the economic restrictions of Versaille plunged Germany into economic turmoil that definitely resulted in the Nazi's rise to power, the war itself sprung from Hitler's nationalism and desire for more power for Germany - not economics.

The only reason Germany went into Africa was for oil. The only reason Hitler gained power was because he offered his people a better life and they believed them. Part of that better life was economic gains

[RockJock]

i did expand on it.. peak oil was created by the rich class to trounce the middle class back into poverty

oil itself does not even come from "fossils" .. that is another load of shxt created by oil companies to create the illusion of limited supply allowing them to fix prices to suit themselves.

it's a small part of a huge, complex equation.. one which i don't have time or interest to discuss on here. do some digging.. you will be surprised at what you find

To be honest, I’ve never heard knowledgeable proponents of the idea of biogenic oil say that it is derived from dead dinosaurs, dinosaur poop or fossils…..

That being said, I thank you for the clarification, I get it now. Just to sum things up: All petroleum found on earth is abiogenic in origin and it comes from reservoirs that are re-charged in real-time.

All methods/techniques developed to increase recovery factors such as water flooding, solvent flooding, CO2 miscible flooding, stream injection, horizontal drilling, frac jobs…etc, etc have been invented to drain even more money from the middle class. The apparent decrease in the quality of hydrocarbon resources is completely fictitious and the planet is awash in light sweet crude.

I call BS…

[healtoeit]

if the war had just been about economics, surely he would never have attacked russia.

Russia controled the balkins, and the land east of germany. He would have invaded russia reguardless of his goals.

Anyway! This does not matter to the orgonal post, so I'm stopping here, sry pundit for getting off topic!