Reply With QuoteThat's an easy one...Originally Posted by repenttokyo
Rocks & sticks!
Grand Master
Has already happened..
I think the... "Iraq wasn't about oil" naysayers will eventually begin to rethink their views as they come to realise just how real and huge the global oil crisis is getting.
The 'so called' Saddam 9/11 connection and WMD ******** used to justify the Iraq invasion was just that... ********!
The ironic thing is that when the oil crisis becomes serious enough, a larger percentage of the population (who can no longer afford to fill their SUV's with gas) will actually support a war fought in the name of oil and the government will no longer have to concoct a story to justify it.
From a futurisic perspective:
Oil WILL be the reason to go to war!
And who will fight over it?... No prizes for guessing!
On a side note...
It would be interesting to conduct a survey of SUV owners...
Q. Would you consider it justifiable that your country goes to war so you can keep driving your SUV?
I think the results would surprise quite a few.
Last edited by pundit; 04-23-2008 at 06:42 PM.
1990 E34 535iA, 215,000kms (130,000 miles).
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Grand Master
That's an easy one...
Rocks & sticks!
1990 E34 535iA, 215,000kms (130,000 miles).
Dual Climate, Rear Headrests, Rollerblind, M-Tech Wheel,
Memory Seats, EAT Chip, T-Stars.
Grand Master
Who owns the patents on large capacity Nickel-Metal-Hydride Batteries?
Do a search and see what you come with!
1990 E34 535iA, 215,000kms (130,000 miles).
Dual Climate, Rear Headrests, Rollerblind, M-Tech Wheel,
Memory Seats, EAT Chip, T-Stars.
Big, Big Time Poster
I agree with you man, however I'm stating that from a historic perspective economic industries have always been reasons for war. Look at how my country was founded! The land I live on was fought over for economic gain by the british. No one is bitching about it now! My point is that society has changed, if the means are for economic gain people will not understand enough to realize that it might be a good or a bad reason. No one will explain WHY and non of the public is listening. American society is just full of idiots on both sides of the political spectrum.
The Iraq war is a different issue all together. With that being said, I'm not a warhorse, however I'm not with the idea of turning Iraq into a loss, look at all the good we have done in Afghanistan to help their country, I believe that we can help the people in Iraq, but if anything is going to get done over there they need to shape up and want to get helped.
Anyway, I just filled my tank after school,$65.90usd, expensive yes, but as soon as I pulled out fast, right there, it was worth every penny.
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4 Grand Master
But the queen has nice hats.
"The gas pedal wouldn't go to the floor if it weren't meant to be there"
Grand Master
Not quite true.
Although there is undoubted financial gain for those companies who make money from conflict (the military equipment suppliers and post war re-construction companies ie. Haliburton) most of the 'big' wars have been the result of religious or ethnic differences over the centuries.
Sure the victors will then plunder 'the spoils', but often what's left is too spoiled to plunder.
The bottom line is... WARS ARE ****ING EXPENSIVE TO RUN!!
So things have to be very desperate to go to war for purely economic reasons.
Iraq was essentially about securing oil supplies into this next century, however with the escalation of events, insurgencies and an un-workable exit strategy, the U.S. has now found itself in an total quagmeyer.
The Iraq war and credit crisis is currently close to bankrupting the U.S.
Fear based religion/ethinicity is historically the most effective tool any government can use to motivate it's population into entering a conflict.
Okay the Spanish invaded, raped, pillaged and plundered (Inca gold etc) but still brought their religion with them... and their diseases.
However we are entering a new phase with oil, water, food, etc becoming the new catalyst for conflict.
Of course the 'Great Motivators' will still mention 'God' 'ad infinitum' but they will do so with their eyes firmly fixed on the spoils.
Last edited by pundit; 04-23-2008 at 10:15 PM.
1990 E34 535iA, 215,000kms (130,000 miles).
Dual Climate, Rear Headrests, Rollerblind, M-Tech Wheel,
Memory Seats, EAT Chip, T-Stars.
Big, Big Time Poster
It's the plunge into the Olduvai Gorge folks! Overshoot and collapse into the post industrial stone age.....
So, drive the hell out of that ///M5 while the party is still on....
the energy blip....just like consumption of suger by bugs in a petri-dish!
Grand Master
1990 E34 535iA, 215,000kms (130,000 miles).
Dual Climate, Rear Headrests, Rollerblind, M-Tech Wheel,
Memory Seats, EAT Chip, T-Stars.
2 Grand Master
I earn my living driving so i have no choice if i am to keep at this.. Just raise the rates commensurate with the cost of fuel. I don't even consider the cost of gas except as a function of the rates for my driving.
1995 540i Manual build 1/95
Big, Big Time Poster
so, did you start accumulating Au @ $US245 an OH ZEEEE?
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