E36 uses M50 engine, right? Turbo Questions inside...

[repenttokyo]

Then explain to me why I walked away from a Dodge Viper at summit point, and I passed a 2006 500hp gt mustang? There breaking distances were awful compared to mine! I lost time because I got stuck behind the mustang in a turn!

for the viper, it was only because you were up against a bad driver. I've braked a Viper hard before, the 160 to zero is really really impressive, those cars stop extremely well. Much much better than our e34's. There is no comparison.

The Dodge Viper is really, really quick, able to cover 0-60 mph in well less than 4 seconds flat, with 60-0 braking distance of less than 100 feet, better than a Porsche 911, and a 0-100-0 time of 12.5 seconds,

[jonny5]

I don't mean to sound rude, and this is simply my opinion, but I'd put first things first. First fix what's wrong with the car (a.k.a. the abs). Then if you want more performance, and unless you have another car you can drive when this one breaks down, get rid of probem areas fist. Such as high milage engine internals, and the auto transmission. I'd bet a manual trans would give you close to the same gains as such a simple turbo "kit," and with less troubles, but I could be wrong.

[jonny5]

oops ... I didn't realize there was a second page before I posted.

[repenttokyo]

The ABS sensors dont work, and I don't like ABS anyway, the light doesnt bother me, i took it out.

Everything everyone is saying is a matter of opinon really, I taken in consideration what I would like to do first, and that's the turbo IF it's feasable at this point and swap the tranny at the bare minimum.

Suspension is still yet to be decided between NEX Coil-Overs and Bilstien/Vogtland. Brakes aren't a concern for me anytime soon. Mine work fine (apart from the abs - which i don't like anyway.)

safety is not a matter of opinion, dude. i share the roads with you.

[Dave M]

The Turbo will still work but it won't give much power going through and automatic tranny vs going through a manual tranny.

I can probably get all the parts for cheaper and source most of the parts through contacts. Could you make me a list of the parts I have to change when I swap trannies(with names preferably, no abbrvieations - thanks)? Is the rear diff necessary or can it pass through my stock LSD?

Attack Eagle, have you completed the list of parts Yet ?

Bad manners, will you have enough scratch left for you turbo 'kit' once you fix your abs and dump your slushbox?

Dave M

[M20Turbo]

1) if you turbo charge your car on that automatic you WILL break the transmission

2) superchargers have no lag - false. The superchargers that are available for the M50 are called centrifugal superchargers. They are essentially turbochargers with a gear reduction unit and a belt driven compressor wheel. This makes them not only have lag but have a LOT of lag. Yes they start making boost low rpm, but they don't achieve "max boost" until your red-line right before you ****. So basically you may only have 1 psi at 3500 rpm, 3 at 4500 rpm, 6 at 5500+ rpm, and right at your red-line you'll make your peak boost. That's really really boring and makes the car no where near as efficient as with a turbocharger. There's a saying that goes around CF blowers that they're "All the lag, none of the boost" of a turbo.

3) Do you honestly think a turbo kit for under $3500 or so is going to be real? Dude, those ebay junk turbos are barely turbos at all. they last about 100 - 200 miles before they explode filling your engine with shards of broken compressor wheel and housing. A normal turbo should cost you about $750+ by itself. A normal turbo uses bolts or a v-band clamp to hold the housings together. The SS autochrome turbos are held together with EPOXY. The eBay/SSAutochrome manifold for the BMW can work - I used one in my Holset turbo build. However, I modified it and built an up pipe and yeah its not a good manifold by itself, it has no wastegate port and it CRACKs. I used their manifold to build a former turbo setup and came in around $3000 - $3500. All I used was their manifold, the rest of it was quality TiAL parts and a Holset turbo.

4) You say "tuning is no problem". How do you figure that?

Jon, I could of not said it any better. You are alright for taking the time to explain to us all and share your expertise. I have had my turbo for 7 years and she is still running strong. I did however have the engine taken completely apart and rebuilt specificity for the turbo. Stroker, dished pistons, heavy duty everything, blueprinted and dyno. Your right, you can not just add a turbo and expect for the the stock parts to survive.......

[attack eagle]

Attack Eagle, have you completed the list of parts Yet ?

Bad manners, will you have enough scratch left for you turbo 'kit' once you fix your abs and dump your slushbox?

Dave M

yep.. read my swap thread on BF.C...
but I am not going to type out 2 hour worth of part numbers... I did that once already.
Bad manners is a big boy, he can do it himself.

Basically you need everything associated with the manual.
open real oem after you cannabalize a parts car, and order everything you missed or want to replace.

$600+ at bma best pricing.

And I said Diff for a reason... you'll find out when you SEARCH.

IF you have $2000 you can probably complete the swap, and maybe upgrade a few parts while you are at it. You'll drop a second or so from your 0-60 time, mostly from having a lower first, and pick up a lot of responsiveness at any speed from being able to put the car right in the powerband.

[nizmainiac]

just my personal opinion, make it handle better first, get used to it, then go for your turbo or supercharger afterwards AND don't forget to upgrade the brakes for bigger ones, as others have said in this thread the more power you have the bigger brakes you'll need, just look at what jon k is planning to do to his

[bad_manners_god]

The ABS sensors dont work, and I don't like ABS anyway, the light doesnt bother me, i took it out.

Everything everyone is saying is a matter of opinon really, I taken in consideration what I would like to do first, and that's the turbo IF it's feasable at this point and swap the tranny at the bare minimum.

Suspension is still yet to be decided between NEX Coil-Overs and Bilstien/Vogtland. Brakes aren't a concern for me anytime soon. Mine work fine (apart from the abs - which i don't like anyway.)

[repenttokyo]

Jon: Tuning won't be a problem because my neighbour has a custom rides shop and does a bunch of custom turbo, custom SC, tuning, exhaust. audio, video....and he's a friend.

what does he tell you when you ask him the questions you are asking here?