E60 M5 launched into a tree; 5 dead

[Omega]

I think there's a lot of low mileage ///M5 V10 parts on ebay, if anyone's interested

I'm watching a few at the moment. Don't want to start bidding too early as I don't want to drive up the price.

Dumb rich kid with an even dumber rich parent and a very fast car. Mix in a little bravado and a complete lack of skill and this is what you get.

Oh well, no loss to the gene pool. It's the families of the friends who he also killed I feel sorry for.

Suppose it makes a change from Americal college kids shooting each other though. Variety is the spice of life after all.

[Dave M]

I recall seeing the accident report, but not the link to the M5 community. I usually don't get 'sucked in' to exploring other forum posts, but this reallly is a scary/eye opening cas that reminded me of the types of discussion/banter we occasionally experience here.

Unfortunately, in this case, the predictions of some board members actually came to sad fruition.

Dave M

[Omega]

It would have just as soon happened in a place not in America.... don't be an ass.

Jon, sorry for not being clear enough. The emphasis was on the fact that it makes a change for a US college kid to kill his friends in a car wreck, rather than the more usual shooting spree.

Hope that clears up the misunderstanding.

[repenttokyo]

the fuss is that his parents didn't love him enough to not let him drive such a powerful car at such a young age.

[whiskychaser]

Jon, sorry for not being clear enough. The emphasis was on the fact that it makes a change for a US college kid to kill his friends in a car wreck, rather than the more usual shooting spree.

Hope that clears up the misunderstanding.

Perhaps because I'm sitting on the same island as you I knew what you meant. Maybe wrong but isnt it 4 shootings in a week or something? OK the kid was young and probably foolish. But who wasnt? So is the fuss and condemnation because he was only 18 and had an M5? I hope not

[Barney Paull-Edwards]

Sensible words Fin. Lets be honest, we did`nt have fast enough cars available to do as much harm to ourselves, as opposed to now,or maybe we in UK learnt to drive to the limit of junkers! I had to spend more time teaching my daughter how to rive properly than to drive to pass the test, i mean how can you give someone a licence without any night or Auotroute experience?

[whiskychaser]

his parents didn't love him enough to not let him drive such a powerful car at such a young age.

Wise words indeed

[fin]

If you have young sons, find a copy of the book 'Raising Cain' which addresses the tendencies/needs of young men to push limits along with the other bumps in the road of adolesence.

The authors did a two hour show for PBS. In it they follow several high school seniors. One of the scenes was of the boys telling there parents that they were going snow sledding.

In reality the sled was being pulled by a Jeep Cherokee through the snow in a small park (maybe a cemetery). Snow has the a impact absorbing quality that makes it possible to do such stunts without as serious injuries as one would receive on dirt riding a small cart/wagon. They did take steps to mitigate injuries. Snow, lightly traveled roadway, holding a rope they could let go of and roll off if they felt the speed was too fast.

The boys in this incident did take some steps to lessen their risk. Runway, not a highway, at night when the airport would be closed/light traffic. BUT, they didn't account for the runway only being a mile and a half long, and probably didn't pay attention to the markers that tell pilots runway remaining. And most importantly, they may have been drunk.

I think that the only reason I survived my youth was the strickly followed rule among my friends of having a designated driver. Kept us from getting too manic and out of hand. Judgment/Analysis is the first victim of alcohol. (it's why you can get by as a drunk musician, but not as a drunk engineer)

I have a cartoon clipped from the funny section of the paper where one boy is standing in the distance with an arrow tied onto his head. In the foreground is a boy with a bow and an apple, who says to another boy "This way, we're only being kinda stupid". Sums it up nicely.

I saw my Guardian Angel once. She had her eyes closed.

Fin

[attack eagle]

Perhaps because I'm sitting on the same island as you I knew what you meant. Maybe wrong but isnt it 4 shootings in a week or something?

5-7 IIRC.
and people still believe that disarming the law abiding citizens (included Concealed carry licensees) is the way to "protect" people...

[whiskychaser]

Sensible words Fin. Lets be honest, we did`nt have fast enough cars available to do as much harm to ourselves, as opposed to now,or maybe we in UK learnt to drive to the limit of junkers! I had to spend more time teaching my daughter how to rive properly than to drive to pass the test, i mean how can you give someone a licence without any night or Auotroute experience?

I live near a quarry. When I was a kid some 'older boys' had an MG - a TF I think. The one that looks like a Morgan. They would give us rides along the dirt road above the quarry. The brakes failed and luckily we went into a ditch before we went over the edge. So I dont think how fast it goes matters much. Looking back, the kid in me still thinks it was fun. But the parent in me is horrified. Strange