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Thread: Intermittent roughness/power loss

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    How 's the fuel pressure?
    BTW: didn't you change out the ICV?
    I'm thinking tank ventilation is related to the purge system but I wonder how the ECU determines there to be a problem with it. I don't know of any sensors on that system so I think your ECU is just guessing. Could still be broken FPR. After all, it is part of the recirculation of fuel. If the FPR is stuck closed fuel pressure should be higher than normal.
    2008 audi A3 1.9tdi
    (former 1991 520i LPG)

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    I did change the ICV last year with another used one. Problem that I was having last year was due to the dead MAF, car would stall. It wasn't related with ICV but I changed it anyway, the new (used) ICV looked cleaner and better.
    I will try to measure the fuel pressure tomorrow. Intake manifold will also be taken out again to see if there is any vacuum leaks, plus ICV swap to the old one.

    Today tried disconnecting the purge valve right at the time the car was smoking black. Didn't make any difference. But it did make a difference when I disconnected the hose from the valve, letting it suck air. Revs increased, stabilizing after a while. No matter how long I waited the car did not run rich again (it was sucking in a lot of air). In this regard, I am thinking maybe ICV is going dead? jamming from time to time in a near closed position. Revs go down and ECU tries to compensate by increasing voltage to ICV and increasing the fuel feed (injector timing). Is this plausible? But that won't explain why it still runs rich when you press the gas.

    edit: did I write that after the errors were erased by the scanner idle acted funny? it would oscillate between 1400-1500rpm before settling down slowly.
    Last edited by t_marat; 07-28-2007 at 10:51 AM.
    1994 520i with M50 engine, manual transmission and air conditioner.
    VIN: GG45422

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    Today had the ICV swapped with my old one. Unfortunately there was no difference at all. So then went for a fuel pressure check. The guy connected the hoses and manometer to the fuel rails and asked me to start the engine. The moment I started the engine he started shouting "switch it off, switch it off!!". His gauge was capable of reading pressure up to 6 atmosphere, that makes about 85psi. Pressure in the car's fuel system was higher than that, the gauge maxed out immediately. He said he barely held the setup in one piece, hoses wanted to shoot out. Return hose was checked and it wasn't blocked. So it was the FPR..
    Got a "new" used one and had it installed. No longer any black smoke from the car

    So Morgenster, you were correct about the FPR.
    1994 520i with M50 engine, manual transmission and air conditioner.
    VIN: GG45422

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    Awesome!
    I'm real happy to have finally made a serious contribution!
    2008 audi A3 1.9tdi
    (former 1991 520i LPG)

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