Are you letting our CIO touch your servers? I went on vacation, I return and the times were 9:55 off. I ask what happened, he said that the time restrictions on the netware box quit working. Oh crap. He read some article on timesync and decided that the 4 time servers we have upstream weren't as good as the ones he read about in FamilyPC magazine. EST5EDT became like -5EDT and the daylight time was off, hehe.