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    Rob stay the hell away from that extended life crap.

    I know 2 people who have lost engines (under load) to that crap, and there are many more stories out there. Stuff doesn't seem to have the same protecting abilities as normal synth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by attack eagle
    Rob stay the hell away from that extended life crap.

    I know 2 people who have lost engines (under load) to that crap, and there are many more stories out there. Stuff doesn't seem to have the same protecting abilities as normal synth...
    You would think that just the opposite would be true since it's supposed to last longer but I've heard the same thing about the new Gold Cap 15w-50. The original red cap M 1 15w-50 was very popular with the motorcycle crowd & I'm still using it in several of my bikes. Unfortunately the reports from those who tried the new ext life version have not been good so I'll be using something else when my supply of R/C runs out.
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    Wow, this sounds eerily familiar.

    When I first got my E46 330Ci, I couldn't believe the service interval was 15000. Of course, as most say, thats too long for my tastes, but I didn't want to go randomly resetting the service light, because then my insIs and IIs would come way too early (not that I take it anywhere for that).

    So I did what roundel said, and changed it when the interval said 7500. Its a good middle ground on the synthetic and it keeps the service interval light somewhat normal. The first time I hit 3000 miles though, it was tough to let it keep going.

    The way I got over it? Saving $50 on Mobil 1 every 3 months is $50 more I can put towards some awesome tires. Problem solved!
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    atleast the lights go off on these cars. my E30 would take 10k before the oil service light came on. i say 5k for synthetic and 3k for dino oil. never heard of clean oil being a bad thing.

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    the only thing im a little worried about is changing to 0w-40 M1 in my next oil change. the PO ran penzoil synthetic 10w-40 in it which isnt acceptable to me. maybe im just thinking the 0w-40 is too thin for my M60. But a lot of people on here like the 0/40 in their M60s and even mobil 1 recomends it on their website.

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    Default Denny G...

    Quote Originally Posted by dennyg
    Ive heard some opinions that changing the oil has some disadvantages. Ever listen to click and clak? On NPR radio? There idea is that when you drain all the oil and change filter it actualy hurts the engine the first few seconds of start up until all the all circulates and passes through the filter. So changing your oil too often may actually hurt! Maybe that will infulence your compulsion.......or maybe not.......do you check the doors twice after locking car? My obsessive compulsive disorder is to look for more E34s.....I have a need for a 540...anyone with a cure?
    Denny- I think we're on parallel trains of thought here! I absolutely LOVE Click and Clack (my wife knows that 0900-1000 on Saturday is MY time), HOWEVER, I think their theory on the momentary lack of oil after a change being harmful is a BIT thin. I used to change the oil on our '95 530 more than was PROBABLY necessary, but I know that the engine felt better with clean oil (especially at 5k+ RPMs in "permanent" sport-mode). My wife actually did the time/mileage math once and "caught" me trying to do an early change- such are the woes of being hitched to a too-smart-for-her-own-good woman, I guess. But now I'm stationed in Korea for a year, so I KNOW that the oil won't get changed until the service light is yellow or even RED. Heck... she'll probably drive the Bimmer until the service light is red, and then garage it and drive the Volvo until ITS service light comes on. Y'all should just be thankful that you are in a position to be able to CARE for your cars, instead of being forced to entrust their care to an un-auto-educated woman! (No offense, Gayle, but you're the exception to the rule.) Oh yeah... and Denny, we both share the "E34 radar" compulsion and a craving for a 540. (It is a 6-speed standard in MY fantasy!) The 530 is just enough to really whet the pallate, isn't it?!

    ... on the switch to synthetic... the PO of my car had done meticulous 3,000 mile changes with GTX dino oil. I switched to Mobil1 on my first change (after reading all the advice in this forum), and no seepage here either! I'm starting to think that the big hullabaloo about switching between dino/synth is a bunch of urban legend hoo-hah.
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    it is an urban legend now, it was true back in the day when synthetic oils didnt have ester content.

    for thinking 0W40 is too thin compared to 10W40, think again! the 0 part determines its cold (and i mean cold) weather performance, and the lower the number the better. the number after the W is for its operating viscosity. having the difference between the numbers too high generally means there are lots of viscosity index improvers which shear out over time, however M1 0W40 seems to have exactly the same viscosity index as castrol syntec 0W30 from germany, which doesnt even contain viscosity index improvers! i would assume that the M1 does however, but not much.
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    if you are really worried about it split the difference and use half 0-40 and 10-40???

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    not too thin at all...
    Quote Originally Posted by markus
    the only thing im a little worried about is changing to 0w-40 M1 in my next oil change. the PO ran penzoil synthetic 10w-40 in it which isnt acceptable to me. maybe im just thinking the 0w-40 is too thin for my M60. But a lot of people on here like the 0/40 in their M60s and even mobil 1 recomends it on their website.
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    some people use 0W30 to THICKEN up their 10W30 oils, think about that for a second or 3.
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