it's fun in something with power high pressure volvo 850 turbos can be nasty, a good part of the problem comes from traction differences from one side to the other, the one that slips lags behind and can make it feel like the car wants to jump in the nearest ditch, another fun point is understeer because you are just asking too much from the contact patch both direction control and thrust, the car is then jumping towards the afore mentioned ditch and you lift transferring weight and traction back to the front end, then the assend wants it's turn at steering, front wheel drive sucks!