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Thread: Has anyone watched "An Inconvenient Truth"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyleN20
    i read an article in car and driver that said it wasent true about humans being the cause, they instead said it was somthing else and when they went to the big summit they all knew this but could hardly agree to do nothing, it was a great article written by the bald guy with mustache sitting in the audi, i forget his name, wish i knew the article.

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    who killed the electric car was... disturbing.

    as for an inconvenient truth, i have not seen it, but the carbon emissions we have been dumping are equivilent to what 50 million years ago brought about a massive extinction, flooded half of north america, turned the north pole into a tropical environment, and changed global climate to HOT mode for 200000 years.
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    its kinda interesting the views we have here.....
    wether or not global warming is caused by carbon emmisions of our making or not there are some things here that i was interested to hear.
    Global warming is a fact.You can argue that it of no consequence or that we arent causing it or whatever .However the temperature trends are upward.
    I was very interested in the graphs Al Gore presented which plotted Co2 levels against time and temerature.How do they get the historic levels of co2.In Antartica they take ice core samples .From the sample they can determine the co2 levels and the temperature of that time.Apparently these samples date back 650,000 years.The co2 levels and temperature levels are exceeding any previuosly measured levels.
    It may all be humbug of course..
    However if for no other reason than the depletion of finite fossil fuels I think its hightime we all did something about it.So the next time you buy a new car or a new heating system or new hot water heating system just go the slightly more enviromentally friendly way.
    The real crime will be if in a few years we really start to see some effects and we all say ..but nobody told us..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillionPa
    the carbon emissions we have been dumping are equivilent to what 50 million years ago brought about a massive extinction, flooded half of north america, turned the north pole into a tropical environment, and changed global climate to HOT mode for 200000 years.
    lol....wasnt that what Ice Age 2 was hinting at, except with a happy ending??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
    So the next time you buy a new car or a new heating system or new hot water heating system just go the slightly more enviromentally friendly way.
    Good point Paul, but an even better point would be each of us trying to tell that to a couple of hundred thousand Chinese or Indians who want their turn at becominmg a developed nation and want the same environmental restictions (ie none) that the developed world had when they were at that stage of development.

    Whatever we do is miniscule compared to these future superpowers.

    You don't think that the problem might be that there are too many people on this planet do you ? (And no I'm not a fascist, left wing or otherwise, advocating death squads.)

    I was merely stating the obvious.


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    exactly Paul, I never believed in global warming as the trends of the charts are on scale as to the time set. However the CO2 levels are higher than ever before (and methane). I do my research and never try to post nonesence (ha) and found the info in this video to be pure education. I mean is Gore falsifying all the charts, all the antarctic and arctic ice thickness? How bout the snow capped mountains? I mean yes there are warming and cooling trends but is it this far off or a real deal? If it's real and the antarctic thins we can be in big trouble. Im not all into the battery garbage of funky suitcase size cars but if that what it takes to save this dot were on than so be it.

    My other question that I cant ask was what impact directly is burning all them forests in africa causing? I mean half the damn country is in flames, that in my eyes has a definite impact on global heat, but in addition thats a lot of CO2 eating trees that are gone... I'm staying away from the politics end but what the hell does Gore have to gain by selling DVD's and the so called propaganda he is pushing? He has enough money to support all of us for the rest of our lives.

    I'm pushing money into Chinas growth for long term which includes GE, BHP ans USU as a start. been out of stocks for a while since the first ex cleaned me out and had no working capital since '97 but now have a little to plan some sort of retirement since my company is fukt.

    now I watch more replies or the thread to die a slow death.
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    lets quit the personal attacks and stay on topic, none of the attacks are very impressing so far. Now if UKM5ish was on then Id be busy deleting shyt lol. Cmon guys, I only posted this cause I didnt believe in global warming, not to have you guys fist fight over oppinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesAFerg
    Does anybody else see this two-person argument as having no basis...?

    I have seen no facts or even debate besides, "YOURE A LIAR BECUASE YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME BELIEVE YOU'RE A RIGHT WINGER."
    or
    "I GET AN OPINION TOO"
    Are you arguing about anything specific...? Is there a specific part of the movie you agree or disagree with and at least ATTEMPT to back it up? Well, are you trying to argue something or just barking at each other...? You have an opinion, obviously, but on what?! Get on with it and start your shootin'!!!

    At least post a specific topic of discussion before you start the mindless bashing lol...
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    Its interesting that when nature spews out carbon its not a big deal. Point of fact is man has nearly been exterminated by acts of nature. They say the ice age was created by volcanic eruption or large meteor. I think global warming is happening. I am old enough to know winters here in north america are warmer and shorter. But know one can predict what effect or how fast things will get bad. It bothers me more the kinds of chemical and nuclear pollution we put in our rivers and streams. There are parts of Russia that are inhabitable. The drinking water in most communities is not good for long term consumption. Its funny how we have accepted bottled water as a matter of normalcy. It does no good to call it political. Its survival. To deny what is happening to our planet is like saying: It wont matter to me, I will be dead when the **** hits the fan.........I didint see the film. I personaly think its the wrong focus. Its too vague and too broad to make sense. But one thing is for sure USA has five percent of the population and consumes over twenty five percent of the energy.....Maybe there is something we can do to change that and still drive our cars

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    water is a new global investment im looking into The shorter winters and snows can be explained by the cyclistic timing over the years studied but you need to know that there was more than one ice age to see the full picture...was more than 5 or 6 that they can chart from 600 million years ago. the last ice age that nuked the dinosaurs was the closest to our time and could have been accelerated by a volcano.

    Quote Originally Posted by dennyg
    Its interesting that when nature spews out carbon its not a big deal. Point of fact is man has nearly been exterminated by acts of nature. They say the ice age was created by volcanic eruption or large meteor. I think global warming is happening. I am old enough to know winters here in north america are warmer and shorter. But know one can predict what effect or how fast things will get bad. It bothers me more the kinds of chemical and nuclear pollution we put in our rivers and streams. There are parts of Russia that are inhabitable. The drinking water in most communities is not good for long term consumption. Its funny how we have accepted bottled water as a matter of normalcy. It does no good to call it political. Its survival. To deny what is happening to our planet is like saying: It wont matter to me, I will be dead when the **** hits the fan.........I didint see the film. I personaly think its the wrong focus. Its too vague and too broad to make sense. But one thing is for sure USA has five percent of the population and consumes over twenty five percent of the energy.....Maybe there is something we can do to change that and still drive our cars
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