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Thread: Bled cooling system but still no interior heat....

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    Default Bled cooling system but still no interior heat....

    I just replaced the water pump, radiator, hoses, thermostat, cast alum. therm. housing and COMPLETELY drained the system (including the block plug), refilled with BMW coolant/distilled water 50/50.

    Question is...I have put in 9.5 quarts now, the engine temp. is rock-steady, bled the system (at least I guess I did) but I still have no heat on the interior?
    I never did get the "bubbles and wait for the steady coolant to come out" that the Bentley says about the bleeder.

    Yes, this is my first time....if feel dumb as hell here but I'm really drawing a blank.

    I'm assuming there must still be an air pocket in there.....probably the heater core area?

    Thanks for any input/help.

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    once you get the thermostat to open it's blead, as for no heat most likely a dead aux pump, it's under the valves and easy to test just hook it to 12 volts and it runs. no pump no coolent flow through the core, path of least resistance and all
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    Check my thread on passenger heat. Bill R shows a great way to test aux water pump.

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    Default I checked the level this morning after having sat all night...

    Quote Originally Posted by Anton CH.
    Check my thread on passenger heat. Bill R shows a great way to test aux water pump.
    And it's dead-on perfect on the "cold" line.

    I will most certainly check the aux. pump.....better start reading on that one, not sure what it is, exactly.

    Do I need to re-bleed after replacing/repairing the aux. pump?

    I'll check that thread immediately.

    Thanks!

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    Default was the heat

    working properly before the system exploded? i don't make a living working on e34s, but i'd doubt that it is likely that the HCV would die just because you changed the antifreeze. what i would try first (if the heat was working properly before) is to bleed the system at the heater control valve. you would do this by disconnecting one of the hoses from the hcv. start the car with the heat on, and wait for the hose to begin (flowing) out coolant. at that point, stop the car, hook the hose back up, bleed at the radiator for safety's sake, and check whether or not you can feel heat in the car after restarting.
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    Default I had blast furnace heat before....

    Quote Originally Posted by ryan roopnarine
    working properly before the system exploded? i don't make a living working on e34s, but i'd doubt that it is likely that the HCV would die just because you changed the antifreeze. what i would try first (if the heat was working properly before) is to bleed the system at the heater control valve. you would do this by disconnecting one of the hoses from the hcv. start the car with the heat on, and wait for the hose to begin (flowing) out coolant. at that point, stop the car, hook the hose back up, bleed at the radiator for safety's sake, and check whether or not you can feel heat in the car after restarting.
    That is what makes me think there's a monster air bubble in there.
    I was hoping....after the number of times I bled the darned thing....it was bled!!! Good heavens.

    Great Idea, Ryan!
    I'll do the bleed at the valve.
    Sounds logical, I was just iffy on whether to do it.

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    Default I can't seem to find the Aux. Pump on BMA's site?

    Quote Originally Posted by winfred
    once you get the thermostat to open it's blead, as for no heat most likely a dead aux pump, it's under the valves and easy to test just hook it to 12 volts and it runs. no pump no coolent flow through the core, path of least resistance and all
    Would it go by another name?

    Do they actually just DIE like that?
    I had EXCELLENT heat before the cooling system repair/service.
    Last edited by MO525; 04-15-2004 at 09:48 AM.

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    i don't think that its sold separately from the heat control valve, unless you buy used. not sure though.

    Quote Originally Posted by MO525
    Would it go by another name?

    Do they actually just DIE like that?
    I had EXCELLENT heat before the cooling system repair/service.
    "..Torchinski v. Peterson that it is legal to carry a concealed weapon, so long the weapon is totally slick like a huge ass machine gun that you carry under a trench coat, like in the Matrix."


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    Default Its sold separately, and bma has it in their online catalog , its under

    cooling system/ water cooling/ and then its about the 4 item down that page.
    It says currently out of stock. Other online vendors show them for around 120. However I think your jumping the gun, if your heater worked perfectly before then I suspect the pump is fine. Did you originally bleed the cooling system with the heater controls turned to high and the fan on low? The manual specifies that you bleed it like that. And on some cars I have had to raise the front end to try and get the airlocks to come out. Jumper the aux pump relay so the pump runs all the time and bleed the cooling system again... or by jumpering it you'll find out if you have a bad aux pump.








    Quote Originally Posted by ryan roopnarine
    i don't think that its sold separately from the heat control valve, unless you buy used. not sure though.
    Last edited by Bill R.; 04-15-2004 at 10:19 AM. Reason: typos

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    Default aux pump can be rebuilt

    I heard that the aux pump can be rebuilt, but I have no details.

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