OT: Who came first?

[Rob]

The chicken or the Egg?

[sKilled]

The egg - that what we consider today as the chicken is a genetic anomaly which has prevailed. This genetic anomaly was at some point bred by its predecessors, and in order for it to see the light of day it must have itself been inside an egg.

[trumpetr]

The egg - that what we consider today as the chicken is a genetic anomaly which has prevailed. This genetic anomaly was at some point bred by its predecessors, and in order for it to see the light of day it must have itself been inside an egg.

ok, i give up,,,what makes a chicken a genetic anomaly?

[sKilled]

It is a genetic anomaly in the sense that it is a mutation, a mutation which was particularly successful. Well sort of, if you consider being eaten, and having ones young scrambled or turned into pancakes successful.

[trumpetr]

It is a genetic anomaly in the sense that it is a mutation, a mutation which was particularly successful. Well sort of, if you consider being eaten, and having ones young scrambled or turned into pancakes successful.

Huh? An anomoly/mutation??? Huh? I guess, I just dont get it. A chicken is a genetic anomoly,or is it a mutation?? Kinda' hard to be both. Or either, if you are a chicken.

Sometimes a chicken, is just a chicken.

[DaveVoorhis]

Huh? An anomoly/mutation??? Huh? I guess, I just dont get it. A chicken is a genetic anomoly,or is it a mutation?? Kinda' hard to be both. Or either, if you are a chicken.

Sometimes a chicken, is just a chicken.

Mutation and "genetic anomaly" mean the same thing.

Here's a simplified version:

At some point in the dim, distant past, a creature that was very similar to, but not quite a chicken, laid a special egg. That egg contained a genetic anomaly, aka a mutation. When the egg hatched, out popped a creature very similar to -- but not the same as -- a chicken, and very similar to -- but not the same as -- its parent.

When that new creature mated with the other not-quite-chicken creatures, the resulting eggs hatched. The combination of mutant not-quite-chicken DNA and normal not-quite-chicken DNA produced what we call chickens. Those chickens mated with other chickens, laid eggs, and they hatched to produce more chickens, and so on.

As it turned out, the offspring of the non-chicken mutation and the non-chickens was dominant and successful, and so its offspring are with us today, and happen to be very tasty fried, curried, sauteed, boiled, or in soups.

[trumpetr]

Mutation and "genetic anomaly" mean the same thing.

Here's a simplified version:

At some point in the dim, distant past, a creature that was very similar to, but not quite a chicken, laid a special egg. That egg contained a genetic anomaly, aka a mutation. When the egg hatched, out popped a creature very similar to -- but not the same as -- a chicken, and very similar to -- but not the same as -- its parent.

When that new creature mated with the other not-quite-chicken creatures, the resulting eggs hatched. The combination of mutant not-quite-chicken DNA and normal not-quite-chicken DNA produced chickens. Those chickens laid eggs, and they hatched to produce more chickens, and so on.

As it turned out, the offspring of the non-chicken mutation and the non-chickens was dominant and successful, and so its offspring are with us today, and happen to be very tasty fried, curried, sauteed, boiled, or in soups.

Thank you. Risking beginning a sentance with a preposition, Is that not evolution, in general 'simplified'? I was wrong,,,I thought of an anomoly, as an unexplained, unexpected change.

[DaveVoorhis]

Thank you. Risking beginning a sentance with a preposition, Is that not evolution, in general 'simplified'? I was wrong,,,I thought of an anomoly, as an unexplained, unexpected change.

Yes, that is a simplified version of evolution. Evolutionary theory uses random mutation -- i.e., an unexplained, unexpected change in a DNA sequence -- to explain the generation of new species. "Unexplained" in this case means we don't know specifically what caused the mutation, but we know in general that mutations occur spontaneously all the time.

Mutations are common, but the vast majority are not viable, resulting in worthless sperm and non-fertilizable eggs. A tiny percentage are viable, but result in stillbirths, sterility, retardation, or physical deformity. An even smaller percentage are viable, non-sterile, and dominant, and result in a new species.

[misfortune]

Why did you bring this discussion here?

Now the psuedo intellectuals will come out of the woodwork with their "logic" and this thread will erupt into flames and idiocy. Good work!!

[Rob]

But you need a chicken to lay the Egg...but how did the chicken get there...