OT This happened right in my subdivision

[632 Regal]

WoW

The war in iraq may have been based on faulty intel, but it has probably saved thousands of american civillian lives from terrorist attacks. How can you call the removal of an evil and corrupt government (known to aid and abett terrorists) from power "destruction"? We can only do so much good in the world, and it makes sense that we would do it in such a way as to be most advantageous to everyone - its a hell of a lot more than your country does, in any case.
In a kill or be killed situation, what would you do?

How do you find that illogical? Dont you think that the animals would do the same to us if we tried to snatch their baby crocs/cubs or trample their nests?


Please dont tell me that you think human life doesnt take precendence over animal life. In any case, thats what endagered species lists are for; to protect species from senseless slaughter like our buffalos faced at one time.

Thats why everyone should carry a gun with them, to protect themselves from things like this. It is a proven fact that gun-weilding societies have a lower crime rate than those where guns are illegal (take a look at your own country). Besides, it was their own freaking neighborhood!!!

[Alexlind123]

University of Chicago economist John Lott studied crime statistics in states that have "relaxed" laws about carrying guns. He found that the crime rates in "right to carry" states went down, sometimes way down, after passing legislation allowing responsible adults to carry guns. Murders fell an average of 8 percent, rapes 5 percent and aggravated assaults 7 percent, while at the same time in the U.S. as a whole murders went up 24 percent, rapes went up 71 percent, and assaults went up more than 100 percent. And in those states, the death rate in mass public shootings -- such as a crazed gunman opening fire in a crowded restaurant -- dropped 69 percent, while deaths from accidental shootings increased by only about one per year. Hardly a gun freak, Lott has never been a member of the National Rifle Association and didn't even own a gun when he started his study. But once he saw how clearly the statistics were turning out, he bought one. (Time) ..."An armed society is a polite society." --Robert A. Heinlein.

[Gayle]

want everything given to you? participate and learn my good fellow

Did you read my whole post? It is not my good fellow. It is my good lady.
And I do participate (1,733 posts) and learn here--just not from the joke thread.

[Bleeding_Knuckles]

either you are a good fellow or a really big good lady, picture in yout post tells something to me- no foffence intended

Did you read my whole post? It is not my good fellow. It is my good lady.

[632 Regal]

amen... the right to bear arms.

University of Chicago economist John Lott studied crime statistics in states that have "relaxed" laws about carrying guns. He found that the crime rates in "right to carry" states went down, sometimes way down, after passing legislation allowing responsible adults to carry guns. Murders fell an average of 8 percent, rapes 5 percent and aggravated assaults 7 percent, while at the same time in the U.S. as a whole murders went up 24 percent, rapes went up 71 percent, and assaults went up more than 100 percent. And in those states, the death rate in mass public shootings -- such as a crazed gunman opening fire in a crowded restaurant -- dropped 69 percent, while deaths from accidental shootings increased by only about one per year. Hardly a gun freak, Lott has never been a member of the National Rifle Association and didn't even own a gun when he started his study. But once he saw how clearly the statistics were turning out, he bought one. (Time) ..."An armed society is a polite society." --Robert A. Heinlein.

[ThoreauHD]

Alex is correct. The only thing government can do when your life is threatened is the autopsy. So carry a gun and defend yourself or prepare to have your genes removed from the gene pool.

[Bill R.]

tripe? John lott and his co author don't stand up to any scrutiny as to be expected. How convenient that he lost his data on the computer....
If you have done any research you'll see that most of his funding came from the Olin foundation, ring any bells? A little followup to some of the Lott fairlytales

And I am a gunowner and a former NRA member

Also I'm a fan of Heinlein and have read everything he's ever printed. Here's a few more quotes of his
and keep in mind that all these "quotes" were quotes of characters of his in science fiction novels

University of Chicago economist John Lott studied crime statistics in states that have "relaxed" laws about carrying guns. He found that the crime rates in "right to carry" states went down, sometimes way down, after passing legislation allowing responsible adults to carry guns. Murders fell an average of 8 percent, rapes 5 percent and aggravated assaults 7 percent, while at the same time in the U.S. as a whole murders went up 24 percent, rapes went up 71 percent, and assaults went up more than 100 percent. And in those states, the death rate in mass public shootings -- such as a crazed gunman opening fire in a crowded restaurant -- dropped 69 percent, while deaths from accidental shootings increased by only about one per year. Hardly a gun freak, Lott has never been a member of the National Rifle Association and didn't even own a gun when he started his study. But once he saw how clearly the statistics were turning out, he bought one. (Time) ..."An armed society is a polite society." --Robert A. Heinlein.

[ryan roopnarine]

why the hell do i say the **** i do out loud.

i don't eat meat, yet im surprised that no one has been extra judicially shooting these things when they start walking into neighborhoods.

as somebody who has a terribly vested interest in seeing the florida concealed laws persisting in a similar manner as they are now.....the "no retreat in public part of the castle doctrine business has gotten off on a terrible start. the first recorded use of the "no retreat" law in florida was a tow truck drive who shot a man in the parking lot of a mall (who he was attempting to tow) whose story stinks to high hell. i live in florida, and i didn't even hear about it on the news, i had to have somebody on fark.com tell me. towtruck drivers are certainly shifty characters, yes, but i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. until, that is, i heard the details of the story--which sound like they played out EXACTLY in the manner in which i've heard people "fantasize" about this law applying to them..mostly among 18-28 YO's that have been NRA members since they were born, and should know better. though i really dislike the NRA, i've been thinking that i should find a meeting and ask to speak to their membership for a minute or two about this, these (people) are their children. i'm honestly shocked after hearing people talk about the way that law applies to them.

[onewhippedpuppy]

genphreak, somehow I think the situation would be different if it were you. If an alligator came into your backyard and went after your child, would you simply throw up your hands and say, "Darwin was right"? I agree that often people are being stupid, and have it coming to them, but the removal of our right to legally defend ourselves is just idiotic. I also agree that much of the problems are due to our encroaching on animals' natural domain, a trend that needs to be arrested with better conservation efforts. As for the rest of your rant, I'll just leave that alone.

[ryan roopnarine]

ahhhh that's why

no, there's no federal law prohibiting the hunting of the things. you can't shoot them because there is a designated "gator season" for which you can purchase permits for.

http://www.floridaconservation.org/w...unting-st.html

but it starts in july. if they have permits for it, they might just bump the season back a month or so that it will start in june or so......
whoo boy, i can see a metric buttload of "discharging a firearm within city limits" charges popping up when people obtain permits and then go hunting in the city......"but, but, but...i have a permit"

hence me saying "extrajudicially" prior. nobody to charge if no one is around to fess up to it.