OT This happened right in my subdivision

[Bill R.]

gator came along and chomped on the remains... I think thats what they are trying to determine now as far as cause of death.

Thats a stunning and insightful conclusion, given that the victims arms were found in the gator's body...

[MBXB]

Gators can sprint up to 30 mph for quite a distance;
They also have a 5 ft vertical leap.

[MBXB]

I think the gator thing is a Federal issue cause the gator is on the endangered species list.
The Castle Doctrine was a State law.

Time to think of starting a handbag and briefcase business!!

Well, I'm down here in Orlando, and we're having the same issues. The bitch of it is that this state recently passed SB436/Castle Doctrine legislation http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...d.aspx?ID=1392 which "Removes the 'duty to retreat' in the face of attack" when it comes to a dangerous assailant. However, it's a FELONY to kill a gator, punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

Let's see..... Bad bart shows up and threatens me or my family with a reasonable "fear for my/their" life and I can put a .45 hollow point between his eyes. But if my 3 year-old is playing in our yard and a wild gator comes in and want's to eat her, I have to call animal control, because if I shoot him, I'm going to prison.

WTF!?! Anyone else see the fundamental issue at hand here?

[Zeuk in Oz]

Gayle, Gayle, Gayle !

How many times do we have to tell you !

Pick on Scots month was LAST month ! (See jokes thread).

Please get with it !

[Bleeding_Knuckles]

My wife has a purse lik that, amybe she wanted to make her own?

[632 Regal]

maybe someone pissed on their parade?

Hubby tells me that gators can run faster than people even with those little stubby legs. But gators don't corner well so the only way to escape them is to make turns.

Whats the deal with gators lately? They have been picking adults off left and right. I understand that is not normal.

[genphreak]

More animal rights activists than criminal advocates? In good old KS, you can put a hole in anything that poses a threat to your family. A while back two men with prior issues got into it, one of them came to the other's trailer and started threatening him. He was quickly shut up when he was shot with a shotgun through the front door. No charges filed.

I'm glad I don't have to work there as a lawyer- trying to make sense of laws you guys have;

• It's OK to kill if you can manufacture wars with lies about oil.
• It's OK to kill (actively lead and participate in) the destruction of the planet itself- and create destractions in the form of 'new wars on (new) terrorists' and freeing countries (but only worthwhile ones like Kuwait...)
• It's OK to let millions of people die all over the planet (such as theSudan, Rwanda, etc.).
• It's OK to kill criminals and other people your government and civil servants choose to call terrorists without abiding by UN conventions on PoWs.
• It's OK to kill people if a jury thinks they 'deserve it'
• It's OK kill if in self defence (without a court hearing/deciding on the matter),
• It's OK to kill Endangered species, criminals that attack, break into you house, etc, etc.

The thing no-one gets is that ever since humans evolved on this planet they've been killed through misadventure, mistake & stupidity. There are a lot of stupid people out there. The biggest killer is transportation. Yet we think it is OK to kill an endangered species when the planet certainly needs them a whole lot more than it needs us.

"Investigators examined the stomach contents of the eight-and-a-half-foot alligator..." same thing happens here in Oz with shark attacks, all the gun-ho types come out to find the offending one whenever someone gets muched or eaten for being in the Shark's habitat (re which is either stupid or a calculated risk taken knowingly by the individual), so it is really just bad luck for the person involved. Bad luck happens, exactly as does ****.

Why can no-one get over that? Is it right to shoot the bears, the crocs, the urangutans, polar bears, etc. etc. whilst their habitat's are all the while destroyed by us?

Laws that allow killing people are stupid enough. If only we did have laws that allowed killing (at least) the stupid people that make them (in a humane fashion I can't imagine) as we really don't need them... (joking) no seriously if you don't know why people must not allow each other to be killed (in any situation) it is simple: It is because we can't be trusted not to do so. And the moment we say it is OK one way, it becomes OK in another. And then it becomes OK to hate. And take away freedoms for security purproses, and so on down the line until you end of with personalities progressively worse than Bush, Chaney and Rumsfeld in power with complete control. If this happens, they will become Hitler's without any enemy, other than those within 'their own peoples'.

The point is, why the hell kill any salient being, let alone an endangered species? They do what they do; it is no fault of theirs. We shouldn't be going near them, and if we do, its our tough luck what happens. Florida has very important wetlands, why is it beyond our intelligence to keep the hell out of them? And why don't we tell the media to quit telling us what we already know (that people are stupid and die every day) when we have much more pressing concerns to understand and address? Nick

ps an interesting fact concerning stupidity; 99% of all fatal snake bites in Australia are sustained by men. The reason is women don't try to kill snakes- only men are stupid enough to do this. Perhaps the sad thing is that the snakes rarely succeed in defending themselves or their families...

[Gayle]

Gayle, Gayle, Gayle !

How many times do we have to tell you !

Pick on Scots month was LAST month ! (See jokes thread).

Please get with it !

I don't get it and I don't usually read the jokes thread. You mean I have to read 42 jokes in this months thread to understand your post? Help me out. Give me the post #. I am afraid I will wade through all 42 only to find out the reference is in last months thread.

Edit: Oh I just realized you mean my sig pic. I was trying to relate your comment to alligators or short legs or something. I am not picking on Scots. My husband and I are both of Scottish ancestry. I am just trying to represent the female perspective here.

[Bleeding_Knuckles]

want everything given to you? participate and learn my good fellow

I don't get it and I don't usually read the jokes thread. You mean I have to read 42 jokes in this months thread to understand your post?

Help me out. Give me the post #. I am afraid I will wade through all 42 only to find out the reference is in last months thread.

Edit: Oh I just realized you mean my sig pic. I was trying to relate your comment to alligators or short legs or something. I am not picking on Scots. My husband and I are both of Scottish ancestry. I am just trying to represent the female perspective here.

[Alexlind123]

I'm glad I don't have to work there as a lawyer- trying to make sense of laws you guys have;[LIST][*]It's OK to kill if you can manufacture wars with lies about oil.[*]It's OK to kill (actively lead and participate in) the destruction of the planet itself- and create destractions in the form of 'new wars on (new) terrorists' and freeing countries (but only worthwhile ones like Kuwait...)[*]It's OK to let millions of people die all over the planet (such as theSudan, Rwanda, etc.).

The war in iraq may have been based on faulty intel, but it has probably saved thousands of american civillian lives from terrorist attacks. How can you call the removal of an evil and corrupt government (known to aid and abett terrorists) from power "destruction"? We can only do so much good in the world, and it makes sense that we would do it in such a way as to be most advantageous to everyone - its a hell of a lot more than your country does, in any case.

[*]It's OK kill if in self defence (without a court hearing/deciding on the matter),

In a kill or be killed situation, what would you do?

[*]It's OK to kill Endangered species, criminals that attack, break into you house, etc, etc.

How do you find that illogical? Dont you think that the animals would do the same to us if we tried to snatch their baby crocs/cubs or trample their nests?

Why can no-one get over that? Is it right to shoot the bears, the crocs, the urangutans, polar bears, etc. etc. whilst their habitat's are all the while destroyed by us?

Please dont tell me that you think human life doesnt take precendence over animal life. In any case, thats what endagered species lists are for; to protect species from senseless slaughter like our buffalos faced at one time.

We shouldn't be going near them, and if we do, its our tough luck what happens.

Thats why everyone should carry a gun with them, to protect themselves from things like this. It is a proven fact that gun-weilding societies have a lower crime rate than those where guns are illegal (take a look at your own country). Besides, it was their own freaking neighborhood!!!