Yeah I'm thinking that I may have the cams off a tooth or two as Regal has suggested which would give me what Tiger is suggesting but I was reeeaaaallllyyy sure I had the cams set real tight with chains in position with the chain tensioner adjuster. etc.......
Anyways, I checked for a fuel pump and there was none but I never recall any buzz before. So I held my foot flat on the gas while turning the engine overand I get the usual smell of too much fuel so I'm pretty sure the fuel pump is ok.

Now I'm taking head covers off again and will test the timing again and report back....... For the life of me I don't know why I enjoy this ..... have been missing my V8 and now I just want it back...