Not a joke poll.

[Gayle]

I think it is pretty clear that no one wants the forum to lose its personality. No one wants a bunch of restrictive rules.

What I am proposing in this poll is someone to deal with the MOST EXTREME situations. We are talking about the sabotuers that float through about 4 times a year.

As I envision it, it would be dealing with the situations that are so extreme we are all pretty much in agreement that they are over the line as have been in the 4 examples in the first post.

Restricting 1% of the freedom here does not take away the other 99%.

The more routine problems are dealt with on an ignore basis as many have suggested.

[Traian]

I for one do try at times (at least once per month) try to answer a question legitimately. I myself have asked legitimate questions and never got an answer... much lower than the average people.

You're one of the best and most helpful folks on the board.

[632 Regal]

Thanks!!! Appreciated.

You're one of the best and most helpful folks on the board.

[ryan roopnarine]

as it is a public poll, i'm surpised to see one of the names on there. perhaps he will get what he deserves one day.

asides aside, i don't care for the idea of a "moderator", per se. i've always thought that the biggest bulwark against jackassery and loss of civility was NOT the ability for the moderator to delete threads, but to lock the thread temporarily, not deleting anything anyone says, allowing everybody to see the jackassery in question, but preventing an escalation of the situation. i think that the "report bad posts" button should be coupled to a threshold (like 10 )that automatically locks the thread when enough "bad post" hits have achieved. the mods or even the current librarians could then present the problem to the rest of the board to determine what should be done next (by consensus)/ ed, of course, could delete stuff as he can now, but nobody else can pre-emptively delete posts or threads.

ps--i suggest the "auto" lock because we don't really have that big of a troll problem here, i don't think there is much of a danger of people irrationally locking threads out because they don't like something being said.

[Bimmer Nut Ed]

OK, GREAT CONVERSATION. I think Gayle's post (quoted below) sums up the issue. 4 times a year there may be "bad" posts or posters, or "sabotuers" as Gayle describes. Remember, that's only 4 times a year at most.

All anyone has to do is PM me (or simply click the warning triangle to the top right of the post) and I will address the situation. Consider yourselves all empowered to judge these sabotuers and contact me. Just as when I asked Jeff to tone down the "slut" references. I do take action, even when it's subjectively offensive. In the example with Jeff, I did not castrate Jeff, I just shared with him that someone was offended.

I consider banning a last resort. I am totally for free speech. Remember, this is why we left raodflee. I think this was a great discussion, I think it represented some very good views. I thank you all for your input. You are all very welcome to click on the warning triangle and report bad posts to me. I may be slow, but I will take action.

Also, as far as cleaning up some of the crap posts in the archive forums, Jeff has brought an idea to me that may very well work out. I'm testing it with Jeff now.

You all are the best. Have a good one!

I think it is pretty clear that no one wants the forum to lose its personality. No one wants a bunch of restrictive rules.

What I am proposing in this poll is someone to deal with the MOST EXTREME situations. We are talking about the sabotuers that float through about 4 times a year.

As I envision it, it would be dealing with the situations that are so extreme we are all pretty much in agreement that they are over the line as have been in the 4 examples in the first post.

Restricting 1% of the freedom here does not take away the other 99%.

The more routine problems are dealt with on an ignore basis as many have suggested.

[632 Regal]

I like this idea.

as it is a public poll, i'm surpised to see one of the names on there. perhaps he will get what he deserves one day.

asides aside, i don't care for the idea of a "moderator", per se. i've always thought that the biggest bulwark against jackassery and loss of civility was NOT the ability for the moderator to delete threads, but to lock the thread temporarily, not deleting anything anyone says, allowing everybody to see the jackassery in question, but preventing an escalation of the situation. i think that the "report bad posts" button should be coupled to a threshold (like 10 )that automatically locks the thread when enough "bad post" hits have achieved. the mods or even the current librarians could then present the problem to the rest of the board to determine what should be done next (by consensus)/ ed, of course, could delete stuff as he can now, but nobody else can pre-emptively delete posts or threads.

ps--i suggest the "auto" lock because we don't really have that big of a troll problem here, i don't think there is much of a danger of people irrationally locking threads out because they arbitrarily don't like something being said.

[632 Regal]

OK i reported Eds bad language...LOL.

I pressed the triangle thing, did it do anything at all? anyone get it?

OK, GREAT CONVERSATION. I think Gayle's post (quoted below) sums up the issue. 4 times a year there may be "bad" posts or posters, or "sabotuers" as Gayle describes. Remember, that's only 4 times a year at most.

All anyone has to do is PM me (or simply click the warning triangle to the top right of the post) and I will address the situation. Consider yourselves all empowered to judge these sabotuers and contact me. Just as when I asked Jeff to tone down the "slut" references. I do take action, even when it's subjectively offensive. In the example with Jeff, I did not castrate Jeff, I just shared with him that someone was offended.

I consider banning a last resort. I am totally for free speech. Remember, this is why we left raodflee. I think this was a great discussion, I think it represented some very good views. I thank you all for your input. You are all very welcome to click on the warning triangle and report bad posts to me. I may be slow, but I will take action.

Also, as far as cleaning up some of the crap posts in the archive forums, Jeff has brought an idea to me that may very well work out. I'm testing it with Jeff now.

You all are the best. Have a good one!

[dacoyote]

OK i reported Eds bad language...LOL.

I pressed the triangle thing, did it do anything at all? anyone get it?

I got it... can I report your bad grammer?

[632 Regal]

if you want...I only see that BillB got the notice.

this isnt good man.

I got it... can I report your bad grammer?

[dacoyote]

To quote Dacoyote, some of the stuff we do as vigalantes is "just too funny".

It is funny.... if you aren't having fun Gayle... then I would suggest you leave and let the big boys play

If you think I didnt catch the rules the first day I came to this place and checked it out you havent done YOUR homework. The threats of being banned can and does curtail assassins...Even Dacoyote thought I could ban him...LMFAO, he was on very good behavior and I still didnt tell the little secret about banning to him. Besides, who in the hell is Dacoyote anyways?

Jeff... I have words for you... that I would post... other then Ed prop would ban or pm me...

We need to be more civilized for the newbies.

We are nice to the newbies... notice how you made it past the 1000 post stage...