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Thread: OT - Someone stole my $$

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    Default OT - Someone stole my $$

    I log into my bank account to pay some bills this morning, and lo and behold if someone didn't clean out my account.

    They did a bunch of ATM withdrawals, even managed to go above the daily limit.

    Anyone know anything about this kind of crime? They didn't have my card or PIN, but somehow they managed to use an ATM to withdraw all but about $4 of my money. Is it possible someone made a copy of my card and did this? The bank claims there's no way it was a bank mistake, and they are looking into it now, but how did someone use my card 5 miles away when the card has been in my pocket all day???

    @$@#$
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    Is it possible that you may have left the ATM with the screen saying 'would you like another transaction?' and someone behind you took advantage of that situation?
    Mike

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    Do you pay by debit at gas stations? My roommate's brother runs these scams all the time and he says by FAR the easiest place to swipe debit or credit card info is at the gas station machines. If you do, before you go to the cops, look up the last place you did this.

    Quote Originally Posted by dave b
    I log into my bank account to pay some bills this morning, and lo and behold if someone didn't clean out my account.

    They did a bunch of ATM withdrawals, even managed to go above the daily limit.

    Anyone know anything about this kind of crime? They didn't have my card or PIN, but somehow they managed to use an ATM to withdraw all but about $4 of my money. Is it possible someone made a copy of my card and did this? The bank claims there's no way it was a bank mistake, and they are looking into it now, but how did someone use my card 5 miles away when the card has been in my pocket all day???

    @$@#$

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    Default yup. I do it every time. I guess I'll stop now.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigD
    Do you pay by debit at gas stations? My roommate's brother runs these scams all the time and he says by FAR the easiest place to swipe debit or credit card info is at the gas station machines. If you do, before you go to the cops, look up the last place you did this.
    how do they do this?
    dave b
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    Default Nope - a totally different location

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey535im
    Is it possible that you may have left the ATM with the screen saying 'would you like another transaction?' and someone behind you took advantage of that situation?
    Mike
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    Default Not likely

    First of all, that totally blows and I hope you get your money back somehow.

    I think most ATMs have the security feature by now that prompts you to re-enter the password before that additional Xaction is allowed. Anyway, I don't know how much money you're short, but ATMs have those little cameras . . . I know the bank tracks the time of those Xactions, and (especially if the ATM used was that of your bank) I would insist that they find the footage from the time the Xaction was done. I would also file a police report ASAP.

    Good luck.



    Quote Originally Posted by mikey535im
    Is it possible that you may have left the ATM with the screen saying 'would you like another transaction?' and someone behind you took advantage of that situation?
    Mike

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    I'd also consider calling the police and filing a report, at least see what they can do. If it's a console ATM then they should have film of the withdrawals.

    I never use my debit card anymore, there is no security, even if it says "Visa" on it. I had someone hit me up for $600.00 to some gambling site, they address the person used when they signed up for the account - via a 3rd party "credit" company used so folks who's visa cards won't let them spend at a gambling site can be credit, I guess it's like paypal - wasn't anywhere CLOSE to mine (I live in NC, the culprit in AZ). The place that took the charge wasn't too keen on helping until I'd said that I'd already called the FBI and the RCMP. I got everything back the next day.

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    Don't remember all the ways but they range from "duh" to pretty clever. First, the damn buttons on the machines are so huge, they need to be blind not to be able to see what pin you're punching in. Then, they have it fail when you first insert the card to read off the info (or keep a transaction open), and make you reinsert. Most just think they were clumsy in inserting the card. Or when you pay inside, they can swipe it into a reader first, then the real machine (not like you're looking, or can see if you were). And either watch your pin, or get your license and hope you come back and use the elephant keypad. Apparently others can tinker with the machines where they charge you the same thing again later. When people see a gas station entry on their bill, do they try to remember if the day matches?

    I still use VISA at gas stations because they have insurance and don't ask questions. You call them, say that you were ripped off, and they give you the money back. Otherwise, if I used Esso (only use 94 Sunoco for the good cars), I'd use the speedpass. There's always cash. But cash sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave b
    how do they do this?

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    ATM takes picture during processing... hope they caught them on file. To fool an ATM system is pretty tough and usually inside job. I heard of a scam where you use one of those portable ATM at quickie mart etc... anything that is not national bank... and thieves used your info captured on that machine to make their own card and you pin number.

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    it may be possible they also got these info online via order processing... if you used your debit card...

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