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Thread: Changing from ATE to Girling brake system...

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    Default Changing from ATE to Girling brake system...

    My car is currently an ATE system. I needed a new master cylinder, and purchased a used one on ebay...but it is a Girling. I didn't realize there were two types, so I had it installed. However, it caused my back calipers to lock up, over heat my rotors, ignite my rubber hoses in flames until they burst, and made the rotors glow red. I knew what was happening, but I had no choice but to go until I could get off the road. It was literally like 1 minute of driving once I noticed them dragging before all was lost.

    So now I have two bad rear calipers, bad rotors (warped probably), bad pads, and bad hoses...and on top of it, probably still the wrong master cylinder.

    Can I change everythign to match my new master cylinder, or am I better off replacing all the bad parts and going back to an ATE master cylinder?

    Thanks,
    Ben

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    you bought a USED master cylinder? It was probably already defective causing this new problem. Just buy a new master cylinder.

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    that sux
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    Default What to do now?

    The master cylinder was used, but with warranty. The issues I had didn't appear to be master cylinder related unless it is SUPPOSED to be OK to mix and match girling / ate. Is it?

    Otherwise my issues are related to me using the wrong master cylinder.

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    i would say the master is made for a car with rear drums not disks. the drum masters have a check ball that holds 3-5 lbs of pressure to keep the brake shoes close to the drums and when installed with a disk brake it simply is braking all the time.

    theres nothing you can do if you want to keep that master except convert the car to rear drum brakes.
    95 E34 530I V2.37
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    Not sure how I missed this....

    but you are lucky you didn't hurt someone....

    I don't know about you.. but next time you get to the point where you realize that it's not the right part... I would suggest getting the right part.... even more so on something like brakes...

    I am glad to see that you saved money over buying the right part at BMA...
    If it cannot be fixed by the dremel or ducktape.. get out the sledge...
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    LOL...new rotors, new pads, new calipers...sure he saved money by converting it to the wrong master...
    95 E34 530I V2.37
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    Quote Originally Posted by 632 Regal
    LOL...new rotors, new pads, new calipers...sure he saved money by converting it to the wrong master...
    You forgot the lines.. and the fluid.... and the pita it can be to get that **** appart....
    If it cannot be fixed by the dremel or ducktape.. get out the sledge...
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    practice makes perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 632 Regal
    practice makes perfect.
    Like my 200 front end replacment...
    If it cannot be fixed by the dremel or ducktape.. get out the sledge...
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