neat never seen those, we have the douchebag deaf guy customer that keeps comming by bothering us for the safety plate that is just under the big nut and washer, his stud broke off and the only thing holding that side of the subframe is the plate that's bolted to the pinch bead at the rocker panel with 2 5mm allen bolts and it keeps trashing the plates, were up to 5 or 6 now, we can't seem to convence him that he is going to die eventially. that guy we showed his front sub frame had come loose and was about to drag the ground on one side saw god and let us put some bolts back in it (the engine/suspension was hanging from one frame rail not two)