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Thread: Any Recommendations for RADIATORS!? I've got a leak =(

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    Default Any Recommendations for RADIATORS!? I've got a leak =(

    I'm not even going to get into the age old question of why they had to make the freakin radiator with plastic ends!

    Mine is leaking at that junction ... somewhere. It's not hoses nor the pipes.

    So, who recommends what?
    I'm leery about by a used one from ebay ... actually, I don't want to even think about that headache ... so forget used.

    New:
    -Behr?
    -Nissens?
    -Dealer? =P

    I read that shogun believes Behr to be better than Nissen - any thoughts?

    Are there any others ... ?

    Thanks,
    Ken

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    Default forget used!

    Being that only plastic radiators are available, Behr or Nissen, forget the used one. A new one should be *under* $250. Supposedly OEM is Behr, which is a bit more than Nissen.

    Unfortunately, there must not be enough demand for E34 radiators as nobody makes an alloy one. The only maker I know of is Zionsville Autosports, they make them for E30, E36, E38 and E39. At $450-500+, its not cheap, but at least you wouldn't need to replace every 60,000+ miles.....

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    Nice details about the differences there...he has as many radiators as you do bimmers!
    Quote Originally Posted by shogun
    See the difference between Behr and Nissens
    http://shrubbery.student.utwente.nl/...eplacement.htm
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    Thanks shogun!

    But, is the only difference with the trans line? I have a 5spd, so the beafed up trans plug won't help me. Other than than the trans line, is it just better over all?

    Ken

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    Well ... I went with the Behr from BMA ... so I can get it on it's way ... I can't wait until next week. It figures that this would happy right before the holidays. BMA told me that they sold 3 others today ... with timing, huh?

    Oh, I got a response from Zionsville, they said that they are considering making one ... but who know when and it's not soon enough for me. By the time they get to it, we will all have already replaced our rads.

    Anywho, Happy Holidays!
    Ken

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    Put on a set of new rotors & pads yesterday, popped the hood to check fluid levels, etc...... Saw a trail of trickling coolant coming from the radiator around the lower right corner where the expansion tank is mounted- sure enough a small hairline crack Is this a common failure point on these good old plastic' radiators?

    This radiator was replaced in '00 (OEM BMW parts) so I at least got 5 years out of it. I am counting my blessings because the day before I put 300 miles on the car w/ my 2 boys! Thank GOD I did not break down out on the road w/ them w/ me! I ordered another radiator, expansion tank- cap, seals, etc. to replace over the long weekend. The water pump, t-stat & all coolant hoses were replaced last year, so I will be good with those-

    Drained the coolant on the block for the first time! Holy Schnikes- talk about a bath!
    Don McAdams
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    www.McAdamsAutoSport.com
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    '88 E30 ///M3
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    Ken, you might have wanted to consider using the 540/740 radiator instead. Slightly bigger, no internal trans cooler, "better" design -- to account for the V8s higher operating temperatures (ha ha - I'm not actually certain of the latter, but you never know).

    My current rad was removed from a 740. It required a bit of modification because of the way I installed it. Only caveat is that the fan shroud won't fit. No biggie.

    Don: the expansion tank can be replaced separately from the radiator, if it's what's leaking. Replace the seal on the coolant level sensor while you're in there.

    Zionsville won't be making the aluminum tanked radiator for the same reason that Rob Levinson doesn't offer more E34-centric products: most current owners don't have the kind of money to spend on what would invariably be an expensive part. Consider the costs of R&D versus how many you expect to sell...it doesn't result in a profit. Brett has been lobbying Zionsville to sell aluminum E34 rads for a few months (maybe due to my interest in finding one, I don't know)....

    best, whit

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzuk212
    I'm not even going to get into the age old question of why they had to make the freakin radiator with plastic ends!

    Mine is leaking at that junction ... somewhere. It's not hoses nor the pipes.

    So, who recommends what?
    I'm leery about by a used one from ebay ... actually, I don't want to even think about that headache ... so forget used.

    New:
    -Behr?
    -Nissens?
    -Dealer? =P

    I read that shogun believes Behr to be better than Nissen - any thoughts?

    Are there any others ... ?

    Thanks,
    Ken
    I put a new Nissens in my 525i back in July, 8,000 miles ago. No problems so far.

    Ralph Mendoza Jr. - Long Beach, CA

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowell
    Zionsville won't be making the aluminum tanked radiator for the same reason that Rob Levinson doesn't offer more E34-centric products: most current owners don't have the kind of money to spend on what would invariably be an expensive part. Consider the costs of R&D versus how many you expect to sell...it doesn't result in a profit. Brett has been lobbying Zionsville to sell aluminum E34 rads for a few months (maybe due to my interest in finding one, I don't know)....

    best, whit
    This pretty much sums it up. I don't think it so much that most E34 owners don't have much money to spend on "expensive" parts, the question is whether its worth it.

    Most E34 owners are not going to spend alot of money on these cars. Let's face it, unlike an E30/36, most people wouldn't bother to track an E34 - too heavy and slow.

    Further, these cars are getting to the point that people are going to start unloading them. Most if not all of you have at least 100K miles or more on your car. Now is about the time when things start breaking down. Are you really going to spend $500-800 for an aftermarket alloy radiator?

    Moreover, new cars are faster and more fuel efficient than our cars. Many people are saying enough and will trade in or sell out these cars.

    Be glad parts are available, just don't expect the high-end *performance* parts that the 3 series get.....

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