rd sways installed last night! INSANE!

[632 Regal]

vasoline=petrolium=eating urethane.

[avitt2]

I've got the same setup, and I'm loving it....I do get a little rub on the front left tire at full lock...Anyone else experience this?

[genphreak]

You are truly a poet

Glad to hear they're in; Happy motoring!
-ashley

the installation details were starting to sound pretty hot... LOL

Best of luck putting some twist in those new bars once you get into some out-of the way corners....

GP

[Jason]

it does it with the 17s AND with the 15s ive tried sliding the bar over to the right but it doesnt matter cause they shift anyway.

[bahnstormer]

yeah they rub on full lock, no biggie...i never use full lock
anyway, cuz its tough on the PS...

i found the lube/grease that RD gave me but they include
very little in their kit.... meh =\

[Jeff N.]

Couple thoughts...

- I really like my RD bars as well..really snugged up the car with the Dinan spring shock setup. Did add some harshness and jiggle to the car but nothing too bad.

- lube the links in the back, that's what seems to squeek in mine, not the bushings themselves. Doing it at an oil change is a really good idea...

- want to really have some fun now? Add the IE front camber plates. Get the fixed ones for about $125 or so. Swap out your 9mm front spring pads for 3mm pads to offset the nose lift if you want. Adds about -1.25 degrees of front end camber. Really helps turn-in. Whhheeeeeee!

- be REAL careful with your new setup as you push the limits. With a stiff rear setting, you now have a setup that will more easily rotate the car. In the dry, our cars generally won't do power oversteer but will very much do trailing throttle oversteer. A stiff rear bar will increase the tendency for this to occur. TTO will "surprise" you if you're not ready for it so you'll want to read up on it and be ready if you do experiance it.

Have fun!

[bahnstormer]

i'm quite ready for it =]
i learned a lot in rally school in finland
and the only scary thing is how much speed
a 3500lb car can carry through the corner

corners that i used to hear tire squeal are now
about 5-10mph faster and corner exit speeds
are incredible with LSD + sways...

i have to often slow down to merge onto the freeway =]

[bahnstormer]

btw do u know of anyplaces to have my car
corner weighted?

the sachs setup has 2 spring perches in the rear
shocks and i chose the higher one to prevent
negative rear camber, and i got a bit of a rake now
the front sits lower than the rear...i think my weight
distribution might be off , ie front heavy

[Jeff N.]

Driving schools are a good thing. Not sure what a rally teaches you. Was it a TSD rally?

Re TTO - are you reallly ready for it? Let's do a little quiz and find out!

a) Describe what TTO is.
b) Under what condition - driving inputs - will you create TTO?
c) What is the appropriate correction for TTO?
d) Why is TTO particularily dangerous for novice drivers and/or people not familar with the car?

Re corner weighting...hmmm...I would say any race should should be able to corner weight the car. I recall adjustable coilovers would really be required to make any meaningful adjustments. If you do do this, I'd be curious in what you discover.

Cheers!

Jeff

[bahnstormer]

by rally i mean wrc style....not sure if u're familiar with it?

we had rwd ford escort cosworths in finland... 9000rpm redline
and 4 speed racing gear box =]

even though it was on gravel, the amount of grip was INCREDIBLE


[quote]
Real VW's (true Beetles, Buses, and Porsches) were rear-engined. This
meant that all of the weight was in the rear. Letting up on the gas in
cars such as these could lead to a nasty condition called "trailing
throttle oversteer": going into a turn, letting up on the gas, and
suddenly, the steering wheel becomes a nasty item producing turns much more
violent than intended. This is a simple law of physics and nothing
remarkable.
[quote]

its also called lift off oversteer sometimes...

i find that the best drifting action is late braking into a corner, upsetting the
rear tires grip and letting them slide =]

tto is best corrected by oppisite lock and throttle, or don't lift off like a wussy =]

if u're not ready for it and go in way too hot, it'll spin u right around before u have
a chance to countersteer...

i'm wondering though if the manual for the RD sways is correct...
the say that the further towards the edge of the sways the stiffer it is?
and i saw a show on speed where they stated the oppisite?