Need generic oil lines... Bill R., Winfred, anyone help?

[Jon K]

I need to run oil to the supercharger. thought about a closed loop system but not worth it. I am between tapping the oil pan for the return line and tapping the dipstick. I need to get some lines though. They don't have to be the hole banjo bolt style. I am going to use normal barbed connectors. The oil return hose has to be lower than the blower, which is above the alternator... so I am thinking of tapping the dipstick. I am thinking maybe going to homedepot or lowes and finding a T pipe... like a small diameter T pipe, so I can cut the dipstick in half and weld the T pipe in and weld the dipstick on the other side, once cut down so that it matches OEM length to check oil levels... ugh oil lines suck.

Also, where would be the best place to tap in order to get an oil SEND line TO the blower? Thanks guys.

[bjl4776]

Any store that deals with turbos and s/c's can supply you with the lines. Make sure that there is no droop in the return line or you will get back pressure to the s/c and blow the seals. I have an oil pan from M50 that is tapped already, but the tap is on the opposite side you need because it is from a turbo. If you do tap the pan, be sure you do it above the normal fill level, also have it filled with cheap oil when you are drilling so as you drill through the oil pushes all of the pieces back out. As far as for the oil feed line the best and most common place to have this is at the oil pressure sensor which is on the back side of the oil filter housing. You can buy an adapter from JTD for $100 or you can make your own using a lug stud, a drill, some pipe fitings, and a tap set like i have in the pic to the top left of the BOV

[Jon K]

Any store that deals with turbos and s/c's can supply you with the lines. Make sure that there is no droop in the return line or you will get back pressure to the s/c and blow the seals. I have an oil pan from M50 that is tapped already, but the tap is on the opposite side you need because it is from a turbo. If you do tap the pan, be sure you do it above the normal fill level, also have it filled with cheap oil when you are drilling so as you drill through the oil pushes all of the pieces back out. As far as for the oil feed line the best and most common place to have this is at the oil pressure sensor which is on the back side of the oil filter housing. You can buy an adapter from JTD for $100 or you can make your own using a lug stud, a drill, some pipe fitings, and a tap set like i have in the pic to the top left of the BOV

So you're recommending tapping the pan with it on the car? Is this safe?

How much would you want for the M50 pan or at least the bung that you tapped with?

Can you give me mroe details on all the parts used to tap the oil supply line? Closer pics? Where you got the materials? Would you sell the setup? help!

[bjl4776]

I actually sold it to someone on this board doing an M30 setup. It is fine to tap the pan with it on the car, of coarse it wouldn't hurt to drop it, but it isn't necisary. I really like the dipstick idea, but I wonder if it would be enough flow to prevent the backpressure. Alot of oil is pumped through the s/c, so you have to thing if it will work to have it going through the small diameter of the dipstick. It doesn't take much back pressure, there was maybe 1.5in of droop in my return lines and I blew the seals and needed a rebuild. I don't have any other pics of it anymore since my pc crashed last, but it is extremely simple to make. If you don't want to go through the trouble of it then buy one of these: https://secure7.nexternal.com/shared...t=products.asp
The one I made I took an old lug stud, drilled a hole straight through it, Then I tapped the top side of it to screw in a male side of a T-fiting. Then I re-tapped the one of the other female side of the T-fitting I retapped to fit the oil pressure sensor and the other one I used standard size adapter to fit the oil line onto. The probelm with the pressure sincer is that it is metric size and you can't get metric size pipe fitings in the US unless you special order them.
Oh, and I've also seen replacemtn oil filter housing caps that already have a drilled and tapped hole on top of it for an oil pressure sensor, but will work for oil feed lines. I think that was at VAC motorsports.

Edit:
I still have the oil pan, but it is for a turbo. The tap is on the wrong size for a s/c setup.

[Jon K]

Could I maybe tap my own oil canister for oil feed? How does the oil flow through the canister?

[Javier]

Turbo? What is the line for, lubing the device?

Just a wild guess, isn't the pressure of the cooling system for the engine oil (oil radiator below cooling radiator) suitable for this application? Or there isn't any in M50.

Javier

[winfred]

personally id go for a aftermarket oil cooler like this but can be scrounged together cheeper or 3rd thing down you can then plumb into that for supply and you have the added benifit of having a cooler to help with the added strain on the motor

[bjl4776]

A turbo or supercharger are basically compressors that push air under pressure into your engine. The more air that can go into your engine and be compusted the more power you can make. The oil lines are needed to lube the device because they move at about the same rpm speed as your engine so they need oil just like your pistons do. The oil cooler would be a good source but there isn't one on an M50.

Jon K:
I would definately get your oil supply from the pressure sensor, and I would more than likely put the return straight to the pan. These are tried and true methods that you can't go wrong with. I would hate for you to try something else and blow your s/c, or even worse your engine from sudden pressure loss. I know it seems scary to tap your pan, but its not as bad as it seems, just take your time, maybe practice on some aluminum of equal thickness first.

[winfred]

turbos and superchargers pressurize the air going into the motor upping the power that it can produce by sometimes up to 50%

Turbo?

[winfred]

what i do when i drill tap and install a heli coil to repare drain plug threads is dump a quart or two of cheep oil through the motor to flush the crap out

I know it seems scary to tap your pan, but its not as bad as it seems, just take your time, maybe practice on some aluminum of equal thickness first.