For a E34 535is would you say is best, 10w-40?
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For a E34 535is would you say is best, 10w-40?
That's like asking what religion you think is best.
The owners manual (not shop manual) is your best friend here.
Unfortunately for cars that are 17 years old, it's not, unless you wanted to know what oil to use 17 years ago. Times change, so does oil.
IMO, the BMW requirements for current production should be taken as good advice for older cars too. And those are in a nutshell, 5W-30 or 0W-40 quality synthetic oil, API-SM. If you follow the owner's manual you'd be looking all over for API-SF mineral oil.
I suspect you'd find that the majority of people here use something like Mobil1 in grades of 5W-30, 0W-40, or 10W-30, in that order of popularity. But that's just a guess.
If you live in the States, Mobil1 5W-30 is a pretty good deal at Wallyworld these days. A five quart jug can be had for under $21. That's hard to beat.
Except for the Porsche, which requires 0W-40, I use 5W-30 for all cars in the fleet. They seem happy with it, and I'm satisfied with the results at 7K to 8K mile change intervals.
FWIW, I use Mobil 1 0W40...very happy with how the motor looks inside!
Cheers,
Duey
Mobil 1 Syn 5w-30 in the BMW (year round).
Mob 1 Syn 15w-50 in the Twin Turbo (summers only).
M1 0w40
Here in the UK I would use a Comma oil, still wondering what one...?
5W-30 or 0W-40 do you think, does climate make a difference?
is that synthetic oil?
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Originally Posted by Jake Casson
I think climatic effect on oil selection is grossly overstated in water cooled engines. After all, the operating temperature is maintained by the thermostat regardless of ambient temperature. Air cooled engines are a different ball of wax of course. IMO the only thing that you need to worry about in choosing oil viscosity range is 'how cold does it get in winter?' Since you're in the UK, the answer is 'not very' (we on this side of the Pond accept your gratitude for the Gulfstream, BTW) , so a 5W-30 ought to work fine for you. I use that weight and it's been fine in winter weather down to -15F which it hits here every couple of years. The only place I use the 0W-40 is where the manufacturer explicitly dictates.
'Comma' oil. You guys have such funny names for things. 8-)
Thanks SRR2.
Yes it is synthetic. Did you know BMW states 5W-30 for the E39 535 but 10W-40 for the E34.
Looks like i'll be putting the 5W-30 in then.....
Are you saying that in the summer here in Phoenix when it does not get below 100 F (even at night) and is over 110 most days that 10-30 or 0-40 is just as good as 15-50? Just currious.
Well what's the operating temperature of your engine when it's 80F? Say 220F. And what is it when it's 115F outside? Oh, 220F. Of course, you're going to be pulling a lot more air through the radiator at 115F, but the engine oil doesn't know anything about it.
BTW, if you have an E39 with the 7.2 or higher Motronic, the electric thermostat actually *lowers* the engine operating temperature in high ambients like yours.
Look at BMW's current oil recommendations. 5W-30 quality synthetic for most models (dunno about M-cars) for ALL TEMPERATURES!!
But the recommendation for the E34 was mineral oil, at least for the first few years of production. I don't know if the owner's manual changed the recommendation to synthetic oil toward the end of the E34's run. I kind of doubt it.
I suggest you guys browse on over to bobistheoilguy.com (I'm not joking) and spend some time reading their forums and archives. You will learn more about oil than you ever thought possible.
If you're bored and want some entertainment, do a search on this forum under "oil".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Casson
Will keep you occupied for a month.
I use Mobil 1 0W-40 in my E 34 but Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 in my ML 270 CDI (diesel) because that is what the dealer uses - I do an oil change half way through the recommended period - approx 11,000 km . I have started using Mobil Delvac 1 5W-40 in my diesel F250. (Special order through my local auto shop - no one stocks full synthetic diesel oil in Oz, as far as I can establish.)
Interesting that all of these have an upper figure of 40 despite living in a temperate climate.
M1 0-40 here in typically very cold winter conditions. Easier initial start-up with the synthetic in frigid weather. The car seemed to run better overall with it. I also like the fact that I can go several thousand miles more between oil changes.
Point taken. I am used to feeding my (air cooled) 911 15-50 M1 so I was feeding the 540 the same thing during the summer. Probibly overkill, but I feel guilty when its 117 out and I am running the A/C full blast and sitting in traffic.Quote:
Originally Posted by SRR2