i think there was a very strong magnet in that underground shop or perhaps a tailwind.
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i think there was a very strong magnet in that underground shop or perhaps a tailwind.
I know how the pedals are setup :) I've driven it and can't imagine accidentally pushing the throttle enough to continue running the engine against the brakes in that manner. It's easy to see what happened. Go to time stamp 00:23 in the video. The driver was coming out of a hard left hand turn, so his front wheels were \ \ however, he's supposed to bring it out into a hard right hand turn and he (as we clearly see) turn the wheel to right lock so the wheels SHOULD be / /. However, going to 00:23 and watching in slow motion, you can clearly see his right wheel is still \ which would indicate a broke tie rod. So, he successfully set his wheels up like / \ which will, however awkward, keep the car in a straight fashion. Solved :)
[quote=Jon K] Hmmm. He certainly seems to be busy enjoying the chaos unfold instead of doing much work at the wheel. Maybe the guy never drove a manual until he got into that Ferrari, or perhaps he was too old to drive and had a panic attack, or was concentrating too much on the promo girl beside him and then had a panic attack!
Or perhaps there was a cone or two jammed under the front (or in the wheel arch even) from the previous few turns, stopping the wheels touching the ground or otherwise preventing the steering working.
Anyway... why the hell was he not wearing a helmet if he was doing trackwork anyway? At least his co-driver could have rapped on it and told him tell him 'wake up!'
The angles thing mentioned earlier in the thread is just parallax error making the result of the accident seem different to what the tail-shot suggested.
Pretty sure its a broken tie rod, see my above posts.
My money would be on a cone jammed in behind the wheel, between the wheel and the body perhaps. :) That'd make it hard to steer.Quote:
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Regardless, the guy obviously didn't know how to act or was otherwise impaired...
...I think if you draw it out, you'll find that the wheels are pointed the right direction. I had to draw out the car, wheel angle post turn and the targeted course worker. By my read the camera angle at 0:23 is behind the car, right corner. That would make the wheels pointing the correct direction based on the drivers input.
Try it...see if you reach the conclusion I did.
And..even if the tie rod broke you would expect (but we don't know for sure fo course) that the driver would have been braking for the turn and would have continued to brake and we would see that deceleration in the video. Of course, I suspect an F50 rarely brakes to turn. Still, I think it's likely and we just don't see the car decel. I'm back to my hypthosis that he's got both pedals covered.
It's fun to try to figure out what happened. Our instructor group always does this as group after any on-track incident. Doesn't make us experts, just interested in trying to sort out what happened...
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I agree with the excessive tailwind post.
Jeff, I drew it out. I don't see how they would be pointing the opposite way. He made a left turn, the tie rod breaks, so his right wheel is still turning left, then he steers to full lock right, so his left tire faces / and his right \, and he's toeing straight and down into the ditch. Run it through visually once more, and note that the tie rod prob broke going INTO the left hander, and was broken going INTO the right hander (which isn't a right, since he goes straight).
At 00:23 its plain to see that we see tire tread and nothing but tire tread from the front right wheel. If you're trying to make a right hand turn and a camera on your right hand side and from behind shoes tire tread... you're in trouble.
You've officially got too much time on your hands. :DQuote:
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I multitask, I am also looking over Humanties 4 course homework, my ECU datalog, updating my website/forum, and ordering parts ;)