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shogun
02-20-2013, 05:15 PM
That is from my 02/98 E36 M3. My one is green label 5HP18, parts number ZF 1056-000-104 , BMW 24002228631, serial number C538578 from ZF/Getrag, as far as I could see.

Was looking for a complete parts list for that 1056 000 104 one, I only found those for 5HP18
Stückliste/parts list - 1056 000 081
Stückliste/parts list - 1056 000 082

These 2 are apparently for E34, but not sure what the difference in parts is.


These numbers are on the green plate/tag on the transmission right side, based on that part number ZF has a detailed main parts list with all individual numbers of that transmission. Every single orifice is listed there for example for that serial number and parts list number
A repair manual is just a general manual and covers basically all versions of a transmission model.
For ordering parts for a trans one has to indicate the trans type, the serial number nd the Stuecklistennummer = parts list number, then a ZF dealer knows exactly every single item installed in your tranny.

see here under transmission identification
Technical Information (http://www.thectsc.com/index.php?p=page&page_id=tech_info)

In case someone has it or can get from a ZF parts dealer, let me know, then I give you an email address to send it.
Just in case I need to repair it one day, I can order the detailed parts as per list.

whiskychaser
02-21-2013, 06:35 AM
This may be of some use:
https://www.automaticchoice.com/Catalogue/zf5hp18.pdf

shogun
02-21-2013, 07:20 AM
thanks, that I have of course, but they mention
1056-000-xxx

so they leave the details open for any version of the last 3 parts numbers.
ZF or ZF dealers of official repair shops habe 100% exact lists based on each individual version, so for my case 1056 000 104 .
If I could get that list, then I know exactly the details of my transmission.
Just in case your contacts in the U.K. could send you, let me know, no urgent need, just preparation for day X when I have to overhaul my trans one day in the future.

whiskychaser
02-21-2013, 11:11 AM
Yes, that list shows a few differences but is far from complete. I have sent an enquiry to ZF UK asking for the parts list for the +104 and my +075. They have been pretty good in the past

shogun
02-22-2013, 06:55 AM
Thanks, we just repaired this 5HP18 valve body from an E36 Alpina
Deep In E32 (http://e32b12.blogspot.jp/)
see part 1 and part 2

Japanese language, but you can change to google translations, also a lot of pics

shogun
02-23-2013, 07:57 PM
a bit OT: 5HP30 valve body rebuilt DIY
darkstarmediallc.com/bmw/5hp30_valve_body_rebuild.pdf
2.6 MB

guide pin on valve body
Guide Pin on Valvebody repair (http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/1185695)

shogun
04-24-2013, 10:01 AM
5 HP 30 ZF parts list no.: 1055 000 029
http://vip.5053.com.cn/biansuqi/5HP30/1055000029.pdf

5HP18 1056 000 081
http://vip.5053.com.cn/biansuqi/5HP18/1056000081.pdf

Overhaul Kit 5HP18 (http://www.tsgparts.net/index.php?p=product&id=93&parent=55)


and if someone can find for 5HP18 the list 1056-000-104 ,that would be fine. That is for my M3, the BMW # on the 5HP18 plate mentions 24002228631, serial number C538578

shogun
10-15-2014, 12:31 AM
I got the list 1056 000 104 from ZF.
@Whiskychaser, you got email with a copy of that.
Apparently the end number 104 is a bit special, maybe only on the 4000 or so made E36 M3 with S52B32US and 5HP18 automatic trans.
Compared to the other valve bodies I assume 104 has different orifice sizes for different oil flow, stronger springs or whatsoever to fit with the M3 engine power compared to the normal E36.
I assume you have also the lists of the more common
1056 000 102
1056 000 073
1056 000 087

shogun
11-07-2014, 08:01 AM
Found a list for many models and trans types:

Automatic transmission (AT) bmw

MODEL AUTO..YEAR..AT TYPE..ENGINE TYPE..TRANSMISSION MODEL
ALL EXCEPT BELOW 84-94 4 SP RWD ALL ZF4HP22
318i 92-99 4 SP RWD L4 1.8/1.9L 4L30E
323i 97-99 4 SP RWD L6 2.5L 4L30E
323i 00 5 SP RWD L6 2.5L A5S 360R
325i 92-95 4 SP RWD L6 2.5L 4L30E
328i 96-99 4 SP RWD L6 2.8L 4L30E
328i 00 5 SP RWD L6 2.8L A5S 360R
3 SERIES 01-05 5 SP RWD/AWD L6 2.5/3.0L A5S 360R
525i 90-95 4 SP RWD L6 2.5L 4L30E
525i/530i 01-03 5 SP RWD L6 2.5L/3.0L A5S 360R
528i 96-99 4 SP RWD L6 2.8L 4L30E
528i 00 5 SP RWD L6 2.8L A5S 360R
530i 93-95 5 SP RWD V8 3.0L ZF5HP18
540i 91-95 5 SP RWD V8 4.0/4.4L ZF5HP30
540i 96-02 5 SP RWD V8 4.4L ZF5HP24
5 SERIES 04-05 6 SP RWD L6 2.5L/3.0L V8 4.4L ZF6HP26
6 SERIES 05 6 SP RWD V8 4.4L ZF6HP26
740 840 92-95 5 SP RWD V8 4.0/4.4L ZF5HP30
740 (840 TO '97) 96-01 5 SP RWD V8 4.4L ZF5HP24
745i/745Li 02-05 6 SP RWD V8 4.4L ZF6HP26
750 850 88-94 4 SP RWD V12 5.0L ZF4HP24
750 (850 TO '97) 95-01 5 SP RWD V12 5.4L ZF5HP30
760i/760Li 04-05 6 SP RWD V12 6.0L ZF6HP32
M3 95-98 5 SP RWD L6 3.0/3.2L ZF5HP18
MINI COOPER 02 CVT L4 1.6L ZF-ECOTRONIC
X3 04-05 5 SP AWD L6 2.5L/3.0L A5S 360R
X5 00-03 5 SP AWD L6 3.0L A5S 360R
X5 00-03 5 SP AWD V8 4.4L/4.6L ZF5HP24
X5 04-05 5 SP AWD L6 3.0L A5S 360R
X5 04-05 6 SP AWD V8 4.4L/4.8L ZF6HP26A
Z3 ROADSTER 96-00 4 SP RWD L4 1.9L/L6 2.8L 4L30E
Z3 ROADSTER 01-02 5 SP RWD L6 2.5L/3.0L A5S 360R
Z4 ROADSTER 03-05 5 SP RWD L6 2.5L/3.0L A5S 360R

shogun
11-14-2014, 09:01 AM
Looks like the E36 Alpina 5HP18 is needs a new transmission. Today he came again to my place and we removed the trans pan and changed the filter and fluid again, larger metal particles could be found in the pan, we figure that the A-clutch is on it's way out. After changing fluid and filter the trans works much better again, but it is just a matter of time, we assume 1 year max. and then it is the end of this trans. Has to be reman.
Before we do that, we want to find another 5HP18 to install on a temporary basis, so that there is time to disassemble the defective one and order parts from overseas etc, we also can only work on the trans on the free weekends, so that takes time.

In Japan it is difficult to find a 5HP18, as many BMW here have JATCO transmissions installed, this Alpina is a parallel imported one. Therefore a 5HP18.
Now there is a small problem to find the correct 5HP18, as the metal tag on the trans with model, Stuecklistennummer and ZF serial nummer got missing in action apparently.
From here http://www.zftranspart.com/index.php?p=page&page_id=id_5hp18 we see 5HP18 Identification
Make Model Style From - up to Code ZF Part # OE Part #
BMW E36 320 M52 1992 - 1995 ZLW 1056 000 081 24 00 1 219 955
BMW E36 M3 S50 02/95 - 01/96 ZOK 1056 000 097 24 00 1 421 946
BMW E36 M3 S52 07/96 - 08/99 ZRE 1056 000 099 24 00 2 228 375

That is probably for the US market. However, the car has a M50 engine, with the additions at Alpina = more HP, engine displacement increased from 2.5 to 2.8 Ltr.
Details as delivered by BMW to Alpina:
VIN WBACB41030FE61753 Type code CB41 Type 325I (EUR) E series E36 (4) Series 3 Type LIM Steering LL Doors 4 Engine M50 Displacement 2.50 Power 141 Drive HECK Transmission AUT Colour MAURITIUSBLAU METALLIC (287)
Upholstery (0203)
Prod.date 1992-06-02
S209A Differential lock 25% , S240A Leather steering wheel, S314A Door mirror / driver's lock, heated, S320A Deleted, model lettering, S401A Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric, S411A Window lifts,electric,front/rear
S428A Warning triangle and first aid kit, S481A Sports seat , S494A Seat heating driver/passenger, S510A Headlight aim control , S530A Air conditioning , S540A Cruise control, S556A Outdoor temperature indicator
S660* BAVARIA REVERSE RDS , S679A REAR WINDOW ANTENNA, S690A Cassette holder, L801A National version Germany/Austria , S848A Extended wiring harness, S920A ALPINA, OHNE BRIEF Alpina without title
S940A special equipment BMW Individual : 0940 Special request =
Hinterachsuebersetzung 2,93 : 1 mit 25 % Sperre (final drive LSD)
Lenkgetriebe mit Lenkeinschlagsbegrenzung
Handbremshebelbalg und Automatik-Waehlhebelgriff in Leder schwarz
Instrumenten-Kombi der Fa. VDO
Schweller seidenmatt schwarz lackiert

Alpina mods for the E36 B6 2.8: http://www.alpina-archive.com/?page_id=56&nmt=B6-2.8/2 only 180 sedan were built, then came the B3. This car is Alpina #108

Based on the ETK the trans should be
Remanufactured automatic transmission EH A5S 310Z - KM Production discontinued 24001219594 '91, October — '92, September, Can be replaced by: A5S 310Z - KO '91, October — '92, September 24001219721,Part number: 24 00 1 219 721 Old part number: 24 00 1 219 397 A5S 310Z - KO Usage 3' E36 5' E34

Now the question: what could be the Stücklisten-Nr. of the existing 5HP18?

I found on a German website a reman 5HP 18 and there it is mentioned: Stücklisten-Nr.: JV , KH , KO , LX , KM , KE , KA , JK , 1056000082 , 1056000075 GETRIEBETYP: ZF 5HP18 , A5S310Z
Passend für/fits Modell: 325i E36 Limousine Cabrio Coupe , 525i E34 Limousine Touring
Passend zu/fits Motortyp: M50B25 M52B25 M50 M52 256S1 256S2 256S3 KW: 141 HP: 192
BMW-Teilenummer: 24001219957 , 24001219185 , 24001219397 , 24001219721 , 24001219958 , 24001219011 , 24001219145 , 24001219594 , 24001219721 , 24001219358 , 1219720 (for reference only)

Because to repair the existing 5HP18, I have to order parts based on serial number, model, Stuecklistennummer, and the Stuecklistennummer is the most important.

Thanks for reading that long post, hope someone can tell me if 1056 000 082 or 1056 000 075 would be correct?

whiskychaser
11-14-2014, 04:03 PM
Erich, the German website is wrong. It cannot fit both. An 075 is good up to 9/92 and an 082 is for cars after that. (It is in my compatibility chart :-) ) They have different electrical plugs. BMWfans shows the A5S310Z KO as the replacement for the box in my old E34 VIN GA11907:
http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/E34-Sedan/South_Africa/525i-M50/R-A/feb1992/browse/automatic_transmission/automatic_transmission_a5s310z/

That had an 075 box in it when it left the factory so I think that is the one you need. I'd suggest the KM may have been an 073 box except it is a bit strange if they put an older box in the car

shogun
11-14-2014, 04:51 PM
Thanks, should have looked in your compability chart. Only checked the internet. So that means we have to look for 1056 000 075 which is good for up to built date 09/92. Or compatible are according to your list also to 1056 000 075 following:

1056 000 058
1056 000 063
1056 000 067
1056 000 068
1056 000 071
1056 000 073

Is that correct?

Do you have any pictures or part numbers for the different plugs up to 09/1992 and after?

ZF 5HP18 Automatic Transmission - Spare Parts Catalog https://www.thectsc.com/images/pdf/5HP18.pdf

whiskychaser
11-14-2014, 06:06 PM
Thanks, should have looked in your compability chart. Only checked the internet. So that means we have to look for 1056 000 075 which is good for up to built date 09/92. Or compatible are according to your list also to 1056 000 075 following:

1056 000 058
1056 000 063
1056 000 067
1056 000 068
1056 000 071
1056 000 073

Is that correct?

Do you have any pictures or part numbers for the different plugs up to 09/1992 and after?

I would limit the search to 071, 073 and 075. I had all of them in my car so know you can swap them around. The others should work in theory. But I haven't swapped them myself and think they would be much too old anyway. I understand they replaced some bushes with needle roller bearings on later models so I would go with the 075 if possible. I have some photos of the pre 9/92 socket but they were intended to show the wiring and are not very clear. The pre 09/92 plug is very easy to spot. It pushes straight into the socket and then you screw the cap on to hold it in place. The later plug is more like a bayonet fitting. I will take some more photos and post them.

FWIW, the pre 9/92 socket has only 14 pins. IIRC, the post 9/92 has 16 but only uses 14 of them. I cannot give you a good reason for this and I have never tried to rewire one. But if I could only get hold of an 082, I would be tempted to use its loom and rewire it. But that is me :-)

shogun
11-14-2014, 06:37 PM
Perfect, thanks for the detailed info. Then we have to look for a 5HP18 1056 000 071, 073 and 075. In worst case from Europe or the U.S. There are some on German Ebay, even some including the TC.
Because I am a bit worried that the continued circulation of all the metal parts inside the oil stream might cause damage also to the TC, and complete fushing of the whole system is required anyway.
In case you find a used one in the U.K. at reasonable price, let me know.

whiskychaser
11-15-2014, 08:37 AM
The trouble with the 1056 000 075 is that it is going to be 22 years old. There are not too many around but I did come across this one from an 01/92 car. It doesn't say it is an 075 but I think it must be. It was reconditioned at some stage but did not sell:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-E34-2-5-M50-PETROL-AUTOMATIC-GEARBOX-RECENT-REBUILD-525-/261609230683?nma=true&si=4w1DTWRbCgpqbqIQifHjUnyWttY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Ad also contains a nice pic of the electrical socket so saves me taking a photo :-)

shogun
11-15-2014, 10:42 AM
Bidding has ended: 19 Oct, 2014, that would have been a super price, Starting bid: £30.00 [ 0 bids ]. But apparently not sold. Have to watch if they list it again. Pic of the plug :thanks, will pass on to wrenching buddies.