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tim eh?
05-22-2009, 03:37 PM
aaaargh sorry guys I know I'm a PITA, but I'm afraid I'm going to break this plug. Is it supposed to just unscrewlike a hose attachment or what? If it is, it's stuck on there pretty tight.

Some sob (same sob) has been here before and a tiny piece is broken like all the other plugs on this car, I just know if I do something wrong it will break all over the place.

It is a 7 pin plug attached to the fuel rail, parts 15, 16, 17 here
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HC23&mospid=47402&btnr=13_0293&hg=13&fg=15
and I don't know what the heck it does.

from above
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6802&stc=1&d=1243024517

from below
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6801&stc=1&d=1243024517

btw this is charge trek XV. tia AGAIN!

tim eh?
05-22-2009, 05:38 PM
ok i got it...

found this on the 3-series forum on the 'other' board

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596215

1/4 turn clockwise on the grippy part as you look from above then pry pry away.

took forever, still need help :), charge trek XVI coming soon.

yaofeng
05-22-2009, 09:52 PM
That's the O2 sensor connection to the engine harness. You should be glad it is tight. If it is loose the O2 sensor may not have been working correctly.

tim eh?
05-22-2009, 10:45 PM
That's the O2 sensor connection to the engine harness. You should be glad it is tight. If it is loose the O2 sensor may not have been working correctly.

oh good then, well it only took 15 minutes or so once I knew how it worked. I'm pretty sure the o2 sensor was working, hope it still is...

this is how far I got today... yes I'm slo as fk.

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6807&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6808&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6809&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6810&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6811&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6812&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6813&stc=1&d=1243050034

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6814&stc=1&d=1243050034

...ugly, isn't she?

shogun
05-22-2009, 11:07 PM
download this
BMW breakout boxes and connectors (PDF)
under electronics
http://www.e38.org/e32/

always needed

tim eh?
05-23-2009, 08:00 AM
download this
BMW breakout boxes and connectors (PDF)
under electronics
http://www.e38.org/e32/

always needed

thanks - I have it, and I had actually checked it! As far as i can tell it only shows how to remove the individual pins from the plug.

So, alt cable looks ok I will run a new starter cable and see...

***- i think the starter is an '88!!! :D

shogun
05-23-2009, 09:14 AM
starter from 1988? Good luck. We disassembled one from our 10/1988 750, the inner parts were made of plastic and had cracks all over. After we removed it, the fell into pieces.
http://twrite.org/shogunnew/fixes/startermotor.html#1988_750_starter
there is a company in the U.K. which has all parts available
http://www.woodauto.com/Unit.aspx?Man=Bosch&Ref=0001218027

tim eh?
05-23-2009, 02:09 PM
starter from 1988? Good luck.

aaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAAAAAA I'm nuts alright but no way I'm talking this b apart.

works perfect but the first time it hesitates it will become useful as a core refund only!

632 Regal
05-23-2009, 03:45 PM
pick up a cheapie spare and hold it as an insurance policy so your current starter will never go bad. ;)


aaaaaaaaaaaHAHAHAAAAAA I'm nuts alright but no way I'm talking this b apart.

works perfect but the first time it hesitates it will become useful as a core refund only!

tim eh?
05-23-2009, 04:26 PM
Well I'll write that up properly but I ran a new starter cable and car runs as before... couple o' pics for now, alternator cable looks brand new everywhere!

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6817&stc=1&d=1243113492

hope I used the right tape... it shouldn't get that hot in there.
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6819&stc=1&d=1243113492

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6818&d=1243113431

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6820&stc=1&d=1243113492

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6823&stc=1&d=1243114852


Symptom- After engine becomes warm I don't get enough power to run all accessories especially highbeams, blower motor and rear defrost, but when it is cold I get plenty of charge.

so far replaced

battery
alternator & belt
D+ terminal ring at alternator
engine to chassis ground
chassis to battery ground
both battery terminals
both fusible links
unloader relay (I tried the new one in both)
starter cable

alternator cable looks brand new as do all the other wires in there.

I wonder if the starter could be shorting and drawing power, it has a pretty direct connection and it looks like it has seen better days:D.

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6821&stc=1&d=1243113492

The only other high current thing I can think of as a suspect that I haven't replaced is the ignition wires, as far-fetched as that may seem.

btw I think this is the o2 sensor connector on an m20, not the one I spent 3 hours trying to undo. It's towards the firewall near the big fuse/control box passenger side. I wonder if it should really be just hanging like that.
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6822&stc=1&d=1243113492

any opinions or suggestions are welcome!


***-

pick up a cheapie spare and hold it as an insurance policy so your current starter will never go bad. ;)

I already have an insurance policy - something else is wrong with the car. Once I fix it, then the starter will fail.