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Kibokojoe
11-02-2008, 09:59 PM
Can one with a 89 535i check the wire rotation on their heater valve for me
The connector on mine was broken by PO and each wire is just clamped on to each terminal.

Currently
Wire #1 is Brown with purple stripe
Wire #2 is Brown
Wire #3 is Yellow with Green stripe

I don't think this is right because I am getting cold air when I should be getting hot air

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/wirerotation.jpg

Kibokojoe
11-03-2008, 08:59 AM
Found the connector now I need the orientation of the wires


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/heatervalveconnector.jpg


Can one with a 89 535i check the wire rotation on their heater valve for me
The connector on mine was broken by PO and each wire is just clamped on to each terminal.

Currently
Wire #1 is Brown with purple stripe
Wire #2 is Brown
Wire #3 is Yellow with Green stripe

I don't think this is right because I am getting cold air when I should be getting hot air

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/wirerotation.jpg

shogun
11-03-2008, 10:05 AM
Maybe the wires are nor original or on the E34 they have different colors.
I posted this once for E32:

connect the clamp of the test light at the pole of the jump start pole (Plus)
Then 'inject' the needle of the test light into the cable yellow/brown for the driver side and yellow/purple (violet) for the passenger side, then the light will blink according to the impulses or it will be full on at the 16 degree Celsius position, and it will be off at the maxiumum temperature adjustment of 28 degree Celsius.
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/380566

Anyway, the single pin is power/plus. The other 2 are the ground cables.

If it does not work, pull all wires out and then the valves hould be fully open = no power -fully open.

Ross
11-03-2008, 11:06 AM
Your's looks wired correctly.
Mine is 1=ye/pe 2= yw/bn 3= gn/yw

Kibokojoe
11-03-2008, 08:46 PM
Your's looks wired correctly.
Mine is 1=ye/pe 2= yw/bn 3= gn/yw

Ye is what
Pe is what

yw = yellow
bn = brown
gn = green

shogun
11-03-2008, 09:45 PM
Here you can make your ph. D. in IHKA systems, but all in German. The drawings will help you however and the technical data. Big file!!!
On page 38 it says
left valve GEVI = gelb-violet = yellow prple
right valve GEBR = gelb-braun = yellow - brown

power is GNBR = gruen-braun = green- brown

Left side valve wire goes to pin 21 on the white plug in the control unit, right side to pin 23.
http://www.e38.org/e32/klimaautomatik.pdf?bcsi_scan_7819E39D80CAD0DA=0&bcsi_scan_filename=klimaautomatik.pdf

Claude
11-03-2008, 09:52 PM
Here you can make your ph. D. in IHKA systems, but all in German. The drawings will help you however and the technical data. Big file!!!
On page 38 it says
left valve GEVI = gelb-violet = yellow prple
right valve GEBR = gelb-braun = yellow - brown

power is GNBR = gruen-braun = green- brown

Left side valve wire goes to pin 21 on the white plug in the control unit, right side to pin 23.
http://www.e38.org/e32/klimaautomatik.pdf?bcsi_scan_7819E39D80CAD0DA=0&bcsi_scan_filename=klimaautomatik.pdf

Always very well documented Shogun, do you have the equivalent technical doc / description for the idle valve ?

shogun
11-03-2008, 10:34 PM
Sorry, that I do not have. Never searched for a tech info for the idle valve, as my E32 750 does not have one, all is controlled by EML.

Ross
11-04-2008, 08:19 AM
yellow and purple "ye" was a bad abbreviation, sorry.
The wires in your photo appear to be the same colors as mine and in the same positions although your description of the colors differs from mine.

Kibokojoe
11-04-2008, 10:39 AM
So I have gathered that you understand german. I had a German girl friend about 25 years ago. I can understand about 1 out of 25 words.
Here you can make your ph. D. in IHKA systems, but all in German. The drawings will help you however and the technical data. Big file!!!
On page 38 it says
left valve GEVI = gelb-violet = yellow prple
right valve GEBR = gelb-braun = yellow - brown

power is GNBR = gruen-braun = green- brown

Left side valve wire goes to pin 21 on the white plug in the control unit, right side to pin 23.
http://www.e38.org/e32/klimaautomatik.pdf?bcsi_scan_7819E39D80CAD0DA=0&bcsi_scan_filename=klimaautomatik.pdf

shogun
11-04-2008, 05:23 PM
Yes, I speak German. I spent half of my long life in Germany.


I had a German girl friend about 25 years ago. I can understand about 1 out of 25 words.

That German language knowledge probably does not help you now to fix the car, like "Ich liebe Dich" ;)

Kibokojoe
11-04-2008, 06:09 PM
How about Vas is loas (sp) Used that a few times.

Found a connector that I bought some time back but I need a source for the metal sleeves and I am assuming there is a rubber boot that snaps over the connector (based on the removable stays). Need to look for part numbers for these

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/heatervalveconnector-1.jpg


Yes, I speak German. I spent half of my long life in Germany.



That German language knowledge probably does not help you now to fix the car, like "Ich liebe Dich" ;)

shogun
11-04-2008, 06:24 PM
Should be item 1
http://bmwfans.info/original/E32/Lim/750iL-M70/ECE/L/A/1988/11/mg-61/ill-61_1296/
comes witha piece of wire attached and you can solder it. If the original metal sleeves are still there but the rubber boots are gone (what is normally the case, they get brittle and break) you can also use a good tape and just add enough tape around the metal sleeves till they have the correct diameter to fit and do not slip out from the plug.

Kibokojoe
11-04-2008, 08:26 PM
Going to need to mic the posts to see what the diameter is. Sounds like a good application for heat shrink

shogun
11-04-2008, 09:30 PM
I like solder sleeves. They come in butt splice and terminal options. No crimping needed, also used for marine applications, water tight.

Heat shrink is adhesive-lined and color-coded to industry standard wire range.
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Termination jackets consist of a heat-shrinkable, transparent, polyvinylidene fluoride jacket with an inner, pre-fluxed, solder preform and two thermoplastic sealing inserts. When heat is applied, the solder melts and flows to provide a superior connection between the ground lead and the shield. At the same time, the two thermoplastic sealing inserts melt and the outer sleeve shrinks to provide an environmentally protected termination.
http://www.budgetpilot.com/125-at-budgetpilotcom-pilot-shop-p-8371.html?zenid=2b09fe0008dd638c4378fd13fea25a22

The translucent, gauge printed heat shrink allows for visual inspection.
Have a greater pull strength when compared to vinyl or nylon.

Heat shrink terminals protect against corrosion and are waterproof.

Rated to 600 volts maximum, building wire; 1000 volts maximum, 105° C.
http://www.delcity.net/delcity/servlet/catalog?parentid=791890&page=1
http://www.delcity.net/delcity/servlet/catalog?parentid=791842&page=1