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525i winter driver
07-07-2008, 01:46 PM
i'm trying to find a part number for this plug that attaches to the 'final stage' sword thingy can anyone help? it's really really hot in my car right now.

Ross
07-07-2008, 04:58 PM
Plan on cutting one from a junker or dummying up something with what you've got. Bm ain't going to have it.
I looked at the harness from the '94 I scrapped recently and it doesn't use that connector so concentrate on cars before at least '94.

shogun
07-08-2008, 06:37 AM
Can you read any part number on the green plug?

525i winter driver
07-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Can you read any part number on the green plug?
funny you should ask.... :D

just went and had another look and i did find a very tiny number... BMW 1378140. called the dealer says he has no idea. i have the blower relay pulled it's so hot in the vents i'm afraid i'll melt something so i'm not driving at all. (my aux fan isn't working properly either) i already tried a fix i thought it was good but the plug is so busted up it only lasted about 5 minutes.

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5745&stc=1&d=1215540256http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5746&stc=1&d=1215540256http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5747&stc=1&d=1215540256

thanks for checking ross, anyone know is there an official name for the 'final stage'?

Ross
07-08-2008, 05:01 PM
That sounds like the last 7 of the #. The numbers all have meaning, with the appropriate first six digits that denote the type of part you may be successful in getting a complete #.
Bear in mind that no dealer in their right mind would stock this part and BM likely doesn't either. If it were a year after your car was built you may have a chance. Now, NFW.

shogun
07-08-2008, 05:34 PM
Look at No. 4
http://ww.e34.de/tips_tricks/schaltplaene/8500_0/02.gif

I will ask on the German E34 Forum

525i winter driver
07-08-2008, 08:05 PM
Look at No. 4
http://ww.e34.de/tips_tricks/schaltplaene/8500_0/02.gif

I will ask on the German E34 Forum
that looks like it. thanks for doing that- nein spreken zie deutsch! for sure there are only 7 #s and it says BMW over it. i think the wrecker's is worth a shot but i'll have to wait for cooler weather and it's slim pickings around here i m e.

shogun
07-08-2008, 10:31 PM
In any case you need a pinout tool for the part. I have made some of old antennas or these small telescope magnets for 1$, just cut them to the right size. On Bimmerboard I have shown these. Otherwise you will not get the pin connectors out, they have hooks. You have to slide these pinout tools over the pin from the front into the plug, that bends the hooks and releases the pins inside the plug.

Stay tune, ich habe schon auf dem www.e34.de gefragt nach der Teilnummer.

shogun
07-09-2008, 07:24 AM
o.k., my contact in Germany tells me that BMW HQ told him the part numbers are:

Teilenummer des Steckergehäuses : 61.13.1.383.516
entsprechender Pin dazu : 1.376.206 (2.5mm²)

translated:

plug housing 61.13.1.383.516
the corresponding pin for the housing 1.376.206 (2.5mm²)


Tell your dealer that your contact in Japan has asked his contact in Germany and that contact in Germany had contacted his contact in BMW HQ and the contact tells us........:)

525i winter driver
07-09-2008, 11:54 AM
o.k., my contact in Germany tells me that BMW HQ told him the part numbers are:

Teilenummer des Steckergehäuses : 61.13.1.383.516
entsprechender Pin dazu : 1.376.206 (2.5mm²)

translated:

plug housing 61.13.1.383.516
the corresponding pin for the housing 1.376.206 (2.5mm²)


Tell your dealer that your contact in Japan has asked his contact in Germany and that contact in Germany had contacted his contact in BMW HQ and the contact tells us........:)
shogun that is beyond awesome. i hate to fess up now but i actually found one about 20 minutes ago (i just logged on to say don't bother)the scrapyards are far but it's cooler and raining - the gamble paid off... now i want to order one anyway so i can tell the dealer my contact in japan asked his contact in germany who contacted his contact... but i guess i won't if my splicing works out ok.:( the p/n works at pelican parts btw... $5.50 for the housing. thanks so much for the help guys - kind of blows my mind you found that page and p/n shogun - i guess you're pretty handy with a soldering iron, huh?

i'm kind of jumping the gun tho - i'll post when it's actually fixed. cheers - tim

Ross
07-09-2008, 02:48 PM
I'm amazed that part is available. Sounds like you aren't the only one to have needed it.
I would have bet the farm it would be NA.

shogun
07-09-2008, 05:59 PM
I have found some other connectors which are not listed in the official ETK. Some people on the German E34 forums want to make a list of those plugs and connectors which are available at the dealer but not listed in the official parts catalog. Apparently that is only for "internal" shop use.
For example I found the parts for the connection engine oil level on the oil pan, the male part and the female part. someone in Germany bought it from a Bosch shop for me.

Qube
07-10-2008, 08:15 AM
I have found some other connectors which are not listed in the official ETK. Some people on the German E34 forums want to make a list of those plugs and connectors which are available at the dealer but not listed in the official parts catalog. Apparently that is only for "internal" shop use.
For example I found the parts for the connection engine oil level on the oil pan, the male part and the female part. someone in Germany bought it from a Bosch shop for me.

Shogun, what the hell are you? Man, machine, or e32/e34 god? :p

525i winter driver
07-10-2008, 12:32 PM
this is starting to look like trouble... did the splice, turned it on and smoke came out of the center vents with the smell of burning plastic.

took the sword out and it looks real ugly - i hadn't taken it apart before but it smells freshly fried. the two wires that shorted out the plug correspond to the 2 most melted terminals in the sword. i'm pretty sure my splice is good. checked the plug and the splices they are good and solid... no evidence of melting anywhere. those two wires are really thick - like 12 awg or something.
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5756&stc=1&d=1215710986
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5757&stc=1&d=1215710986

so should i be looking for something? or just replacing the sword? i can't find problems anywhere else (except the ac doesn't work but that is old news) the ground terminal 202 (not sure where) is supposed to be shared by a few systems and they all work so i am assuming the ground is ok.

my neighbours get nervous when they see me carrying a fire extinguisher out to the car :D. i'm kind of nervous too for sure it got really hot there.

QUBE!!!!! you anywhere near a post office dude? forget the pads i need the sword buddy!

Qube
07-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Heh. I can have it out for you tomorrow if you want it. Let me know.

525i winter driver
07-10-2008, 12:53 PM
Heh. I can have it out for you tomorrow if you want it. Let me know.
yes yes yes please sending pm right now

525i winter driver
07-14-2008, 09:17 PM
FIXED! THANKS QUBE!

i guess the old sword is what burned out the plug which would explain why the part is still available (if you know the right people) if it does that. and when i plugged a good plug back into the sword the sword fried (wt...?)- lucky the plug survived.

i think (certainly hope) the old sword was causing all of my recent electrical problems 'cause everything works better than before all the little gremlins are gone for now - damn if this holds up i'll be toasty come winter.

yo THANKS +++ QUBE!

shogun
09-21-2014, 12:32 AM
apparently that p/n plug housing 61131383516 is no longer available, says ECS and they have 2 nice pics of the new p/n
..::Note:::..
This product is no longer available.
new Mfg Part# 61138377762
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES165823/

http://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/products/BMW-X-Series-E53-E70-E71-E83/Socket-housing/1404485/61138377762.html