who has interest in Herb's cupholders?

[shogun]

As Herb did not offer them the past months I have contacted him via his private email.
His reply:

Hello Erich,
Here is the situation with the cupholder. We made the mold and ran
the initial quantity of parts. I sold the last of the parts about a month ago and the only way to sell more is if I have another molder make them for me. My cost for a limited number of parts is a bit over $1200. That means I'm out of pocket until I sell about 40 cupholders. If we can do that I'll have the parts made.

The cupholder price has been $29.95USD for the past several years, and seems to be reasonably well accepted. Shipping/handling has been $8.50 for US and Canada. To Europe and your area (Asia)the shipping cost is higher, but not a huge differential. As far as RHD is concerned, I think I should refrain from that option. Herb
-----------------
Additional info from my side: that cupholder does not fit on consoles which have the holder for ASC and/or EDC.
Fits on E34 and E32.
It fits, however, on center consoles for automatic transmissions and for manual gears/shifters.
Here are the pics how they look. Please post if any interest, then I will inform Herb and he has to decide to go ahead or not. I will link this post also on other boards. If he goes ahead, you can buy them on Ebay.

Pics
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholdervq3.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholder2ve2.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholder4ou7.jpg

[BigKriss]

I like the look of them but I don't have one.

[shogun]

Kris, most important thing is: they are the most practicable. You can also use larger bottles.
Maybe of interest for you in OZ. The Americans use bigger bottles and cans than we in Japan.
I just went to the car to measure the hole diameters for the bottles/cans. It is 73 mm.
The small standard coffee/juice/soft drink cans in Japan have a diameter of only 53 mm diameter. So I used a self adhesive foam and added that inside the opening of the holder, so that the cans fit snug.

I also added a non-slip rubber mat, so that keys etc. do not move in curves.

[swenpro]

One of the best investments I've ever made BUY THIS CUPHOLDER!!!

[BMWCCA1]

Not me, thanks. I like my ASC+T!!

[shogun]

Looks good, in total we already have from the U.S. and German boards for E34 and E32 abt. 10 confirmations of interest. I assume that we get our 40 sets together, which then covers the initional tool cost for Herb tp produce them.

He just sent me this email:


Erich,
Thanks for all of your efforts. I'll keep watching the boards. Hopefully we can get 25-30 interested and I will gamble on the rest

Thanks again
Herb

[BFEINZIMER]

where do we go to buy one?

[LunatiC]

I bet there's no RHD version either :(

[unvago]

Where can I get them?

[Nick.Hay]

I bet there's no RHD version either :(


Ditto!! Can anyone confirm this for us?? I'd be interested if there was a RHD version.

[BigKriss]

its universal / nor lhd RHD but maybe your leg will hit were the cups rests - this is just from looking at it - i don't think it will though? what to you guys think

[bubba966]

Not me, thanks. I like my ASC+T!!

You can go with this one that doesn't mount in the shifter area.

http://www.drinkholders.com/bmw/e34main.html

I've got their dual cupholder in my M-Sport. Works great even under very hard driving. I couldn't use Herb's cupholder if I wanted to as I've also got ASC+T. Not sure I'd want a cupholder in the shifter area anyways...

[BMWCCA1]

You can go with this one that doesn't mount in the shifter area.
http://www.drinkholders.com/bmw/e34main.html
Thanks but I don't like the look of those. Never have. I've got the BMW NA accessory cup holder that hangs on the side of the center console. It's been modified to fit on the side of the rear bin, commonly referred to as the cell-phone compartment. Works great there, stays out of my way when shifting, and holds a cell phone and some odd parts. I don't like drinking and driving!

[LunatiC]

its universal / nor lhd RHD but maybe your leg will hit were the cups rests - this is just from looking at it - i don't think it will though? what to you guys think

I would've thought that the right cup holder won't sit properly due to the auto shifter being in the way -- my auto shifter is near to the driver.

[BigKriss]

so is mine.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2205/cupholder4ou7.jpg

well you can turn around the knob and make it face the passenger side. there is one small screw there holding it in. it should fit then fine.


I would've thought that the right cup holder won't sit properly due to the auto shifter being in the way -- my auto shifter is near to the driver.

[genphreak]

I reckon a simple mod can be made to make it fit a car with ASC; simply cut a notch from the RHS to fit around the molding- or cut the molding- not sure whihc would be better.

Erich; put me down for 2 please... $60- that's a bargain. :) Nick

I will report on how well it goes on:

RHD manual
RHD manual w ASC
RHD auto

:) Nick

[shogun]

I add you on the list on BB, as I sent Herb the link so that he can watch it.

Herb sent me yesterday this email:

quote

Erich,
Thanks for all of your efforts. I'll keep watching the boards. Hopefully we can get 25-30 interested and I will gamble on the rest

Thanks again
Herb
unquote

I also got several people on the German 7 and E34 board interested.

[Espen]

Ill take one as well.

Could you get a quote on shipping to Europe (norway)?

[shogun]

Thanks, I will put you on the list. Shipping within the U.S. and Canada ist $8.50, and to Europe it will be a bit more but not much, I assume around $10-15 max. by USPS global Airmail.

First of all we have to get enough together that Herb can buy the tools and starts production.
When he is ready, I will post that here and give a link to the Ebay auctions for buy now.

[genphreak]

Thanks, I will put you on the list. Shipping within the U.S. and Canada ist $8.50, and to Europe it will be a bit more but not much, I assume around $10-15 max. by USPS global Airmail.

First of all we have to get enough together that Herb can buy the tools and starts production.
When he is ready, I will post that here and give a link to the Ebay auctions for buy now.Can't wait! I hate the way everyone puts stuff in the console area where it will last one turn and end up under the pedals or elsewhere.

Even I still dump things there when being absent minded.

Hopefully this add-on will bring a bit of relaxation to the e34' interiors' "chaos of central kinetics"...

[shogun]

Can't wait! I hate the way everyone puts stuff in the console area where it will last one turn and end up under the pedals or elsewhere.

Even I still dump things there when being absent minded.

Hopefully this add-on will bring a bit of relaxation to the e34' interiors' "chaos of central kinetics"...

I will show your comments to my wife, she is a world champion in putting things there. I put a non slip mat on the cupholder, that helps.
But before I had the cupholder the wood console was scratched by "flying objects" such as mobile phone, keys, cigarette lighter, manicure stuff etc.

[BigKriss]

I would like to put on the list also Erich.

[shogun]

+1 for "eem2x " for his E34 on Bimmerboard E34 board.

[DDK's 525]

I would like one please

[shogun]

Thanks, 14 so far. We are coming closer to the minimum qty.
Updated list is here

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/539665

[shogun]

bump. anyone more?

[BigKriss]

yes I'm after one also


bump. anyone more?

[shogun]

Plus one for Ralph525 from www.e34.de

I added you on the list, Kris.

[shogun]

plus 1, Slider1100 , www.e34.de

[shogun]

21 as of now, we are coming closer to the minimum qty.

[shogun]

23 now, plus
1 Shuby
plus 1 LeRachat

both from German www.e34.de

[shogun]

plus 1
dersalbader
German E34 Forum

[shogun]

:D :D :D :D

email just received from Herb:

Okay, you win!!!
It is going to take several weeks to get the mold sent out, have parts made, and then brought back in house for finishing.
I'll stay in touch with a timetable.
Thanks for your persistence
Herb

Stay tune, I will anounce when they are ready and where to buy from him directly.
Thanks to all!!!!

[genphreak]

How you find this stuff I'll never know, but one day- perhaps when you are old and grey you will find out a few BMW engineers will invite you into the fold, show you a few secrets from the bad old M-factory days and throw a party in your honour for doing what the company never did... and helping to keep the fruits of their hard work well placed in the history books- and a few lucky owners' garages...

Thank you... (and of course Herb too)- this is fantastic work on our behalf!

Freida will wear Herb's cup-holders with honour!

[shogun]

plus 1
healtoeit

[shogun]

update, just got following email from Herb


Erich,
It appears that we will be running the parts in approximately 2 weeks. I
think we will need several days after that to assemble.
I will let you know when we get the parts in house.
Herb

Stay tune, second half August....

[89_525i_PhoenixAZ]

+2 for me!

please let us know when we can order them...

[shogun]

o.k., I will post the link to the Ebay auctions when the parts are available at buy it now price, so you can order directly from Herb.

[89_525i_PhoenixAZ]

Any word yet on the status of the cupholders?

[shogun]

I will send a reminder to Herb.

[drbeatty]

I would like one of these also.
David


As Herb did not offer them the past months I have contacted him via his private email.
His reply:

Hello Erich,
Here is the situation with the cupholder. We made the mold and ran
the initial quantity of parts. I sold the last of the parts about a month ago and the only way to sell more is if I have another molder make them for me. My cost for a limited number of parts is a bit over $1200. That means I'm out of pocket until I sell about 40 cupholders. If we can do that I'll have the parts made.

The cupholder price has been $29.95USD for the past several years, and seems to be reasonably well accepted. Shipping/handling has been $8.50 for US and Canada. To Europe and your area (Asia)the shipping cost is higher, but not a huge differential. As far as RHD is concerned, I think I should refrain from that option. Herb
-----------------
Additional info from my side: that cupholder does not fit on consoles which have the holder for ASC and/or EDC.
Fits on E34 and E32.
It fits, however, on center consoles for automatic transmissions and for manual gears/shifters.
Here are the pics how they look. Please post if any interest, then I will inform Herb and he has to decide to go ahead or not. I will link this post also on other boards. If he goes ahead, you can buy them on Ebay.

Pics
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholdervq3.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholder2ve2.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholder4ou7.jpg

[shogun]

up-date: just got email from Herb:

Erich,
I got pushed out by the molder. What I am asking for is such a small
quantity that we keep getting pushed down on their priority list. I
think/hope it is running this week. I'll update on Monday after I speak
with them again.
Thanks,
Herb

[shogun]

Just got following email from Herb:

Shogun,
Below is the ebay listing number.
If people would prefer to contact me directly rather than using ebay, I
will accept checks. The product will have to wait several
days for the payment to clear however.

180296102594

Thanks again
Herb
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Back by Popular Demand

The Cupholder That Makes Sense for Your E32 and E34


No more sliding coins
Finally, a way to keep items in place on your console

Fits 7 Series BMW's from 1988 thru 1994
Fits 5 Series BMW's from 1989 thru 1995
Will fit on Both Automatic and Standard Transmission Models
Can not be used on vehicles that have ASC, traction control buttons located below the ash tray
No attachment is required, the unit stays in place with a friction fit
Knee room is not restricted.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fitems%2F%3F_n kw%3D180296102594%26_in_kw%3D1%26_ex_kw%3D%26_saca t%3DSee-All-Categories%26_okw%3D180296102594%26_oexkw%3D%26_ud lo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_sami low%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_s adis%3D200%26_fpos%3D%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_fv i%3D1&item=180296102594

[shogun]

shipping cost to Germany/Europe, here the email exchange with Herb:

Erich,
The additional charge to ship to Germany is $8.50. That makes the total
shipping and handling charge $17.75.The unit will be sent USPS First Class. I was not able to get a delivery
timetable. Any other methods were at least twice as much
Thanks,
Herb

Erich wrote:
> Herb, some people in Germany want to know how much in total per set to
> Germany, your offer only says:
>
> Shipping and Handling To Service
> US $9.25 United States US Postal Service Priority Mail Flat Rate Box^®
> 2 to 3 business days*

[BigKriss]

Hi Erich. Maybe you can get a quote of delivery to Sydney, Australia, zip code 2221. I emailed Herb through the the e-bay email system, but he hasn't repled yet and it was a few days ago. There's only 9 left :( If theres a few left I will pay for the usd$30 now and the rest for shipping later so no bug deal reallty.


shipping cost to Germany/Europe, here the email exchange with Herb:

Erich,
The additional charge to ship to Germany is $8.50. That makes the total
shipping and handling charge $17.75.The unit will be sent USPS First Class. I was not able to get a delivery
timetable. Any other methods were at least twice as much
Thanks,
Herb

Erich wrote:
> Herb, some people in Germany want to know how much in total per set to
> Germany, your offer only says:
>
> Shipping and Handling To Service
> US $9.25 United States US Postal Service Priority Mail Flat Rate Box^®
> 2 to 3 business days*

[shogun]

Kris,
I am in Germany at the moment, no fast email and limited access. Try to contact him thru the Ebay system again, maybe he was busy or spam filter?
I assume the cost to OZ is same or similar as to Germany.
No worry about qty, that is the first batch he produced with the new tools, he can produce more when first batch is sold.

PS: was at a crazy 7 meet last Saturday in Mainz-Kastel in Germany, >70 people there, meeting place was the used E32/E34 parts shop of Andre Abenson, he arranged everything. They built a nice BBQ grill from the trunk (cut off) of a E32. First pics are on 7-forum Germany, later more when I am back in Japan end of this week.

[shogun]

First lot is sold out, here the next 13 pieces,
under Item number: 180298324188
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fitems%2F%3F_n kw%3D180298324188%26_in_kw%3D1%26_ex_kw%3D%26_saca t%3DSee-All-Categories%26_okw%3D180298324188%26_oexkw%3D%26_ud lo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_sami low%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_s adis%3D200%26_fpos%3D%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_fv i%3D1&item=180298324188

[shogun]

next lot is here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180300672083QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em180300672083&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318

[shogun]

7 hours to go, 14 sets available
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180300672083QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em180300672083&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318

[BigKriss]

I never heard back from Herb, I made a bid on one, but I went though the ebay responses and a guy from the UK left a negative response as it didn't fit on his RHD car. so I'm assuming it won't work now.

[shogun]

see in my first post a copy of his email to me:


As far as RHD is concerned, I think I should refrain from that option. Herb

Looks like he does not want to have any trouble with RHD.

If you want, I can buy one for you for left hand drive ;)
But I will be in Singapore for 3 days from tomorrow. Should have known that earllier, also meet a guy from our OZ office there. So he could have taken it to Autralia.

Herb has another 15 sets for sale now
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180304111935QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item180304111 935&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318

[shogun]

Info for BigKriss:

Someone from the German board asked me to inquire with Herb shipping cost for 3 sets to Germany. On this occassion I also asked him regarding youe inquiry, answer:


Hello Shogun,
Thanks for your ongoing support of this. We have not quite made the
total yet, but the number is climbing.

I went back and checked about a Kris from Australia and I can't find
anything for payment through Paypal. He may have
sent a check, but we have not received it. Although I have several
emails from Australia, they are related to the thermal insulation that
we produce. I don't think I have seen anything with regard to
cupholders, but I will check my spam filtering.
I will get the set prices to you tomorrow.

Thanks and take care,

[shogun]

and here again the next lot
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/herb460

expired

here the new link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180322828433QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item180322828 433&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318

[shogun]

upon request of some, here next lot
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180333112534QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item180333112 534&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318

[shogun]

next lot here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180341505446&_rdc=1&viewitem=

[Herb]

My name is Herb, do I get one for free?

[shogun]

Hi Herb, you have to ask Herb, the seller, not me ;-)

here is the next lot
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1171Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c29 3Q3a6Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZi tem29fe983047QQitemZ180365045831QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ 5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[drbeatty]

Are there anymore coming?
drbeatty@pacbell.net

[shogun]

I asked him last week, he still has stock, will send him an email to get a new series online, watch this link and wait some time till he has put it up
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/herb460/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

[shogun]

already got his reply:

Will do.
I'll put some more up tonight.
Thanks Erich,
Herb

edit; see here http://motors.shop.ebay.com/herb460/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

[Jazzman]

Shogun,
Is Herb still offering the cupholders? this is a great piece and I would like to have another one for my 740iL. Please let me know if they are still available. Thanks. Sonny (palengke@cox.net)


As Herb did not offer them the past months I have contacted him via his private email.
His reply:

Hello Erich,
Here is the situation with the cupholder. We made the mold and ran
the initial quantity of parts. I sold the last of the parts about a month ago and the only way to sell more is if I have another molder make them for me. My cost for a limited number of parts is a bit over $1200. That means I'm out of pocket until I sell about 40 cupholders. If we can do that I'll have the parts made.

The cupholder price has been $29.95USD for the past several years, and seems to be reasonably well accepted. Shipping/handling has been $8.50 for US and Canada. To Europe and your area (Asia)the shipping cost is higher, but not a huge differential. As far as RHD is concerned, I think I should refrain from that option. Herb
-----------------
Additional info from my side: that cupholder does not fit on consoles which have the holder for ASC and/or EDC.
Fits on E34 and E32.
It fits, however, on center consoles for automatic transmissions and for manual gears/shifters.
Here are the pics how they look. Please post if any interest, then I will inform Herb and he has to decide to go ahead or not. I will link this post also on other boards. If he goes ahead, you can buy them on Ebay.

Pics
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholdervq3.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholder2ve2.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cupholder4ou7.jpg

[shogun]

Hi Sonny,

about 2 weeks ago I contacted him as he forgot to renew the add on Ebay. It is here now
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14Q QhashZitem2a0135b8b8QQitemZ180408924344QQptZMotors Q5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
special price.
He mentioned that he still has about 100 pieces on stock.

[genphreak]

I got mine and fitted them to RHD. due to the orientation of the dash angle being opposite on RHD to LHD, one cupholder can only carry change, not a cup.

So at the moment, I can only use to outer holder, closest to my leg :( But with care, they work, both on manual and auto :)

It is made from vacuum formed PET, so I will cut one apart and try to create a mirror version. Will post pics of the before and after when I do.

Should be good when I''m done. ;)

[shogun]

here it is again http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180478138329QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMot ors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2a0555d7d 9

[BigKriss]

I picked up one of these from Genphreak. Good Stuff!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PbK4nFh90Kc/S--aAimBJTI/AAAAAAAADqA/KmYyQ2i-3RE/s800/IMG_6386.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PbK4nFh90Kc/S--aPT2MuII/AAAAAAAADqk/1CRjiLaOG4s/s800/IMG_6389.JPG

[shogun]

finally, so it works in AUS
new here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder_W0QQitemZ180508974121QQihZ008QQcategoryZ636 91QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m444QQ_trkparmsZal go%3DCRX%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM% 252BLA%26otn%3D1%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8382145677759 326491

But for those with the ASC or EDC switch in the center console: N.G.
just tried my cupholder from Herb last weekend on the E32 Alpina B12 of my wrenching buddy, does not fit at all, one would have to cut off half of the left side cupholder to fit it, the ASC/EDC switch takes too much space there.

[genphreak]

Lovely pics mate... These show the installation in a RHD car.

I didn't think they'd fit your auto very well but you can see they do, sort of. Go nice in the manual. just need to swap that old wooden stick for a modern e39/46 one! :) Nick

[Kibokojoe]

Just bought one from Herb on ebay. Ha he live in Pennsylvania, right next door :)

[shogun]

and he also owns an E34

[genphreak]

Yep. Beware though, the holder on the passenger side is good for a mobile phone- a drink will not go in there with the dash angled above it the way it is on a RHD car.
But the left one is usable, and the tray is a better than the slide board that BMW never thought about storage with.

I was going to make a hybrid out of fibreglass nad Herb's excellent holders, that would go round the whole shifter a la the nice M5 gear shift surround but incorporate the holder/s and a set of gauge holes. The problem is mkaing it LHD & RHD compatible... (thinking) oh yea, and work for auto and manual... LOL!

[Kibokojoe]

So this is really only functional for the RHD and not the LHD?


Yep. Beware though, the holder on the passenger side is good for a mobile phone- a drink will not go in there with the dash angled above it the way it is on a RHD car.
But the left one is usable, and the tray is a better than the slide board that BMW never thought about storage with.

I was going to make a hybrid out of fibreglass nad Herb's excellent holders, that would go round the whole shifter a la the nice M5 gear shift surround but incorporate the holder/s and a set of gauge holes. The problem is mkaing it LHD & RHD compatible... (thinking) oh yea, and work for auto and manual... LOL!

[BigKriss]

No, on LHD you can use two cup holders, but for RHD you can only use one cup holder - the one closest to your leg.


So this is really only functional for the RHD and not the LHD?

[Kibokojoe]

Too bad you can't flip it.
No, on LHD you can use two cup holders, but for RHD you can only use one cup holder - the one closest to your leg.

[Kibokojoe]

I got mine last week, really like it

[genphreak]

I was going to cut 2 up to make one good one for RHD, but gave it to Kris instead. Who needs two holders? The inaccessible one is good for even big mobile phones and Ipods tho, it can sit up and one can see the screen light up...

No good for M5s though, the gearshift surround interferes. We should mod the design for Herb and get him to make a RHD one that fits regardless of RHD, ASC+T switch and M5 capable.... LOL

[dennyg]

My son needs one for his 89 535. Still available?

[shogun]

here http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-Cupholder-E32-E34-735-740-525-535-Cup-holder-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a07b1a47aQQitemZ18051 7708922QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries
always check under his name, he sometimes forgets to renew the offers and so for 1-2 weeks the is no offer
herb460 is his name on Ebay
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/herb460/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

[BMW4LIFE]

I might be interested in 1:D