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JMI
04-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Have often read here and elsewhere about the inadvisability of of using lowering springs with standard stock shocks. However this site (http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/upgrade/suspensions.htm) which I believe to have good info says otherwise. The idea of using Eibach or Racing Dynamics springs with Boge shocks sound like a good compromise with price and firmness.

"There is a long held myth about so called lowering shocks or shocks designed for lowering springs with reduced travel versus shocks designed for standard or taller springs. The best way to visualize it without physically looking at the shocks side by side is...the only tangible difference is the stroke is shorter in a shock designed expressly for a lowering spring...the throw is shorter. Full jounce position or fully compressed shock position is exactly the same...that is the critical factor for bottoming...wh ere the jounce bumper fully compresses onto the top of the strut collar nut threaded onto the strut housing...that shoulder position is the same for either shock and each shock will identically compress into its cartridge casing. With a standard Boge shock lets say..the throw of the rod internal to the shock is a bit longer..that's all...so the shock is cabable of "extending" farther...at full suspension rebound or when the suspension arms are fully down with a taller spring. With a shorter spring..you don't need a longer throw shock...however..this is the important part...Is putting a standard Boge with longer travel with a lowering spring bad? Absolutely not...you just end up not using the full travel capability of standard shock with a shorter lowering spring... that's all. All the speculation of a standard shock..say Boge..wearing out faster with a lowering spring...is a myth. (From George Mann)"

Any opinions on this?

TIA

632 Regal
04-23-2007, 03:42 PM
Im using the Sachs turbo something shocks and they work great.

Have often read here and elsewhere about the inadvisability of of using lowering springs with standard stock shocks. However this site (http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/upgrade/suspensions.htm) which I believe to have good info says otherwise. The idea of using Eibach or Racing Dynamics springs with Boge shocks sound like a good compromise with price and firmness

Blitzkrieg Bob
04-23-2007, 04:12 PM
with Billies in the front and boge in the back.

No problems

E34N
04-23-2007, 04:20 PM
I got boge all around with Eibachs.. going on 2 years with no problems

Vanguard
04-23-2007, 06:30 PM
I've got KYB's with Eibachs. One day no problems so far. :D

bissellh
04-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Have often read here and elsewhere about the inadvisability of of using lowering springs with standard stock shocks. However this site (http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/upgrade/suspensions.htm) which I believe to have good info says otherwise. The idea of using Eibach or Racing Dynamics springs with Boge shocks sound like a good compromise with price and firmness.

"There is a long held myth about so called lowering shocks or shocks designed for lowering springs with reduced travel versus shocks designed for standard or taller springs. The best way to visualize it without physically looking at the shocks side by side is...the only tangible difference is the stroke is shorter in a shock designed expressly for a lowering spring...the throw is shorter. Full jounce position or fully compressed shock position is exactly the same...that is the critical factor for bottoming...wh ere the jounce bumper fully compresses onto the top of the strut collar nut threaded onto the strut housing...that shoulder position is the same for either shock and each shock will identically compress into its cartridge casing. With a standard Boge shock lets say..the throw of the rod internal to the shock is a bit longer..that's all...so the shock is cabable of "extending" farther...at full suspension rebound or when the suspension arms are fully down with a taller spring. With a shorter spring..you don't need a longer throw shock...however..this is the important part...Is putting a standard Boge with longer travel with a lowering spring bad? Absolutely not...you just end up not using the full travel capability of standard shock with a shorter lowering spring... that's all. All the speculation of a standard shock..say Boge..wearing out faster with a lowering spring...is a myth. (From George Mann)"

Any opinions on this?

TIA




I am have Bilstein touring shocks/struts with Eibach lowering and love it. It gives me the aggressive stance and better handling without losing comfort. When I first installed the Eibach lowering springs, I put in Bilstein Sports. They were way too stiff and were bottoming out over bumps and pot holes. I thought I was going to lose some dental work and damage my car it was so bad. I later learned that you can open up the sports and cut the internal bump stop down to half the height in order to reduce the bottoming out. But, by the time I learned about it, I had already replaced the sports with touring and had sold the sports. I am very happy with the comfort AND handling.

Dave M
04-23-2007, 10:35 PM
I got boge all around with Eibachs.. going on 2 years with no problems

Ditto. Three, maybe four years now, no issues, never bottoms out.

spyrot1
04-24-2007, 08:27 AM
I also have Eibachs with Bilstein's, and so far haven't had a problem with them.

The ride and handling is a perfect compromise.

takumidrift30
04-24-2007, 01:17 PM
Ditto. Three, maybe four years now, no issues, never bottoms out.

Same here, Boge all around with Eibach for a year no issues so far.

MTV
04-24-2007, 01:58 PM
I've got a set Eibach's with the OEM Boge shocks and the ride is perfect for me. :)

t.wak
04-24-2007, 10:57 PM
I have my Eibachs waiting for installation. Will be running them with OE shocks.