E34 HID pic request

[Boone.Msi]

please post pics of any temp from the e34 projecter low beam. i want to see how they look in the evening/night.

i searched and only saw maybe two.

Im planning on going 6000k but if i see a 4300k or 5000k that looks better i may go with that. these will be put on the euro ellipsoids(that i have not purchased yet)

thanks

[Jon K]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/andreak/DSC_0076_filtered4545.jpg

My sisters E34 w/ 4300k in US projector.

I have 6000k in my Euro projectors.

[bigtallsam]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/btsam/DSC00121.jpg

[Qube]

http://jasonlau.ca/harrietta/hidcompare.jpg

Very old picture. I'm running 6000k now. Remember that over time, it will get progressively 'cooler'.

Also remember that 4300/5000 has physically more light output than 6000k+. The blue/purple tinge you see on HIDs come from the light cutoff and not really the actual temperature itself.

[Dave M]

Jay,

Whats impied by 'cooler'? Increasingly white or increasingly blue?

[Jr ///M5]

The higher the number, the less brightness of light and more saturation of color.

4300=best lighting, less blue
5000=little more color of blue, less light than the 4300
6000=still less light than the 5000, but more color of blue
8000=color turns to purple shade, still less light than 6000
10,000=purple lights, can't see ****

[Dave M]

The higher the number, the less brightness of light and more saturation of color.

4300=best lighting, less blue
5000=little more color of blue, less light than the 4300
6000=still less light than the 5000, but more color of blue
8000=color turns to purple shade, still less light than 6000
10,000=purple lights, can't see ****

Jr. I'm wondering whether Jay is implying that the light output and or color will change over time.

Any thoughts?

[Jr ///M5]

There is a difference in the light over time. Early E39's with Xenons that had to have the bulb replaced for one reason or another would experience an uneven color balance. Dealerships would replace the bulb with another only to find out the same result. They would replace both bulbs just so they would match for the customer. Afterwards, they found that the replacement would "burn-in" and match after several hours of use.

The color will change somewhat, but since most men are color blind what do we care?

You cookin' the turkey yet?

[Dave M]

There is a difference in the light over time. Early E39's with Xenons that had to have the bulb replaced for one reason or another would experience an uneven color balance. Dealerships would replace the bulb with another only to find out the same result. They would replace both bulbs just so they would match for the customer. Afterwards, they found that the replacement would "burn-in" and match after several hours of use.

The color will change somewhat, but since most men are color blind what do we care?

You cookin' the turkey yet?

Thanks for the explanation Jr. I'm guessing changing two HID bulbs at the dealership would set an e39 owner back a pretty penny. However, if you're concerned about the color difference that much, you probably have some spare change kicking around.

We cook the first turkey in October (Canadaian TG), then we celebrate our relationship with the neighbours to the south and cook another.

Ahhhh, American pride tastes good even if your a Canuck :D

[BlueM60]

Sorry to hijack the thread Boone, Im still running the old ancient halogens. Id be very interested toi know where your getting your HID kit tho, just an ebay set-up?

-Ben

[scoop2004]

im intrested in having a set of these but im guessing they cost a lot more than i'd be willing to pay. Anyone tell me how much it'd cost for the 6000K in US$

[Jr ///M5]

I've been looking and researching HID's also. There are numerous "kits" available from Hong Kong and Japan, but the ones that other M5 owners are raving about is the McCullogh (sp?) brand.

After it's all said and done, you will pay about $250 for euro-ellipsoids, or you can use the standard ellipsoid lights that came stock on some models. You cannot use the kit on the free form halogen headlamps.

The cost of the kit is about $250, so it's a 500 dollar bill for those who have free form lights and about $250 for upgrading your existing ellipsoids.

[Qube]

When we start to talk brands (*McCulloch* *cringe*) go ahead and search these forums so you can come to your own conclusions :)

[Jon K]

I am running Phillips ballasts and bulbs - great products in my opinion, the best of the best.

My sister has Hella ballasts and bulbs from an X5.

[Macv]

I run phillips and can say, thats the way to go. 6000k is extremely sweet.

However if you HAD to go cheap, I've worked with Genesis twice now and they're great.

[Jr ///M5]

When we start to talk brands (*McCulloch* *cringe*) go ahead and search these forums so you can come to your own conclusions :)


Look again Qube....Phillips and McCulloch are synonymous.

[Qube]

Look again Qube....Phillips and McCulloch are synonymous.

That's extremely hard to believe. McCulloch... the same company that makes and distributes home doodads like steamers is synomous with Philips. AFAIK, McCulloch is an Asian/Taiwanese company. Call me a skeptic, but I'd really like to be proven wrong here with a bit of proof... though not in a flame baiting way, JR :)

Now, if by synonymous you mean that in the world of McCulloch HID they use some Philips components, that's easier to swallow. If that's the case, then I go back to my first hand experience with several of their kits, including the 'newer' ignitor-separate versions that just aren't on par, quality wise. Make no mistake though, I'd take them over much cheaper Chinese (read: not Taiwanese) counterparts any day.

Dave M bought my last 9005 set a few weeks ago. Let's see how it goes :)

[Jon K]

Anyone have a set of 7500k H1 bulbs? I want to try them out.

[Qube]

Anyone have a set of 7500k H1 bulbs? I want to try them out.

I have a set of 9006 7500k, but they're really too blue. See pic above.

[BlueM60]

jon K, can you possibly post a pic of your phillips set-up? Ive got euro ellipsoids and want to see just how much trouble it is for installation. Also, mind if I ask where you got your Phillips kit from?

-Ben

[Jr ///M5]

You mean McCullogh????

Right?..

Sorry Qube......do some research.....

Jr

[632 Regal]

this needs to be archived, hope I dont F it up doin it.

[angrypancake]

4300k in French market hella's gives off this pretty sweet green hue to it when they're cold. totally not legal but hey. i have phillips ballasts and they're pretty freakin sweet.

[Boone.Msi]

nice post guys, i havent considered a brand yet, bimmerforums.com has an occasional group buy on HID's so i would probally get them from there. just using this thread to get an idea of what they will look like on our projectors.
two big concerns of mine:

1.) Is there a huge difference between the look of HID with the euro ellipsoids vs. the standard ellipsoids? i will definantly be purchasing the euro's before i get the HID upgrade.

before this thread i was leaning towards 6000k but i believe 5000k will look more stock and less "show" which is what i want. although i do like the glimmer of blue and purple that you see on the newer model BMW's. which from reading on this forum is from the projector?

2.) Will our cars have this purple/blue shimmer also? I would really love the updated look of HID, light is important but it dosent have to be blinding.

thanks again for all the imput.
-Boone

[angrypancake]

the higher up in K you go the more purple you get. 13,000K is ridiculous, PURPLE and retarded. 4300K and 6000K are white.

[bsell]

the higher up in K you go the more purple you get. 13,000K is ridiculous, PURPLE and retarded. 4300K and 6000K are white.

Here in Japan, stores are pushing more yellow light bulbs. I am talking 3,600-3,900 was the only things I could find for our 'normal' cars this past year. The bulbs (unknown brand) in my 1995 525i were rather bluer than our other cars but not to the point of silliness.

On another point, how do you all like the light pattern put out by the ellipsoids and projectors? I was dissapointed in my aftermarket 'angel-eyes' installed when I bought the car. I plan on researching the euro ellipsoids or whatever give me a better beam pattern...

I wonder if it has to do with the human eye being more sensitive to the yellow/red end of the color spectrum? Isn't that why 'green' streetlights are being replaced by 'orange' ones? Something about better visibility with lower wattage bulbs saving electricity and money.

Brian