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ryan roopnarine
11-19-2006, 09:21 AM
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I had to ask myself that earlier this week, as I spend about $100 USD a year on fuel injector cleaner (for various vehicles, not just the e34 :D ). I decided to go all out, and pick up a can for the annual/18 month application of the stuff. I notice nothing until about 5 days later. The temperature/humidity is the same, but i notice that my transmission is shifting oddly, and then, all of a sudden, my tires start breaking loose in unexpected places. gas mileage goes up slightly as well. this is in a car that usually sees two bottles of techron (sometimes 3 if there is a rebate on the stuff) at a treatment, without even a noticeable effect. it also didn't help that i ended up spilling 1/3 of the can on the ground because the only funnel on hand wouldn't work with the can shape. for 19$ usd, this stuff is a steal. am trying to get an on car cleaning apparatus by christmas, though, because $100/year is a little much to be spending on fuel injector cleaner.

Dave M
11-19-2006, 09:44 AM
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and then, all of a sudden, my tires start breaking loose in unexpected places. gas mileage goes up slightly as well.

What is this RC3PO you speak of?

Seriously, never heard of the stuff.

Dave M

acidfire52
11-19-2006, 11:09 AM
They sell it a NAPA. It is the best injector cleaner there is.. Cleans up all kinds of stuff.

I ran it in mine right after I got it, did not seem to do much, must have been in good shape.. I do recommend it though.

Zackb911
11-19-2006, 11:19 AM
it is good stuff, but pricey

Dave M
11-19-2006, 01:10 PM
They sell it a NAPA. It is the best injector cleaner there is.. Cleans up all kinds of stuff.

I ran it in mine right after I got it, did not seem to do much, must have been in good shape.. I do recommend it though.


Thanks, I'll have a look.

BillionPa
11-20-2006, 12:51 AM
the reason it works is because of the acetone content.

the other components are standard components of gasoline, having no effect.

acetone + techron = win.

previous posts explain the other reasons why your car feels better with acetone in the gas..... and as long as you use ethanol free gas you can use it every tank instead of for occasional tuneups.

ryan roopnarine
11-20-2006, 12:57 AM
the reason it works is because of the acetone content.

the other components are standard components of gasoline, having no effect.

acetone + techron = win.

previous posts explain the other reasons why your car feels better with acetone in the gas..... and as long as you use ethanol free gas you can use it every tank instead of for occasional tuneups.

its been several hundred miles since even nominal amounts were in my gas. when it was in, it temporarily raised my gas mileage about 1 mpg, but it went back down to a much more modest increase. this was 5 days after i had an empty bg44k tank. i don't really see how the acetone would do anything to cause the changes I've seen.

ryan roopnarine
11-20-2006, 01:03 AM
What is this RC3PO you speak of?

Seriously, never heard of the stuff.

Dave M

dave, ak-47x is the only fuel injector guaranteed to make your wang bigger. IIRC (and i say this because i don't want to claim that Bill r said anythign he didn't say personally), mr. rickard has implied that one bottle of bee-gee69x in the gas tank over a tank a gas is somewhat comparable to having your car put on the injector cleaner apparatus...i say this with hesitation.

Jehu
11-20-2006, 01:03 AM
Hows the RedLine fuel treatment do? I've used a few bottles of that. even dumped an entire bottle at once in a tank when i forgot that i'd done that before and the directions suggest thereafter using tenths.Says it cleans injectors and valves..

ryan roopnarine
11-20-2006, 01:09 AM
Hows the RedLine fuel treatment do? I've used a few bottles of that. even dumped an entire bottle at once in a tank when i forgot that i'd done that before and the directions suggest thereafter using tenths.Says it cleans injectors and valves..

speak of the debbil. as someone that spends as much as i do, my follow up to the bg was the redline sl-1. i was hoping that they changed the formula to acutally do something----nope. haven't noticed anything yet, but i generally don't notice anything after techron or redline.

BillionPa
11-20-2006, 01:36 AM
acetone does more than just clean the injectors. it also cleans crap out of the fuel rail and pipes, and removes carbon deposits from valves, the piston head, and the top of the cylinder at an alarming rate. its octane rating is about 150, and the other componenets of BG44K are about 97, so the cocktail is a small octane booster.

even having 0.1% of the content of your fuel acetone provides a worthwhile drop in surface tension of the gasoline, and keeps the combusion chamber free of deposits. the optimal amount is 0.23% by volume, however as the can doesnt say what the percent acetone by volume is, i wouldnt add large amounts of BG44K, as concentrations over 0.3% will impede engine performance.

and since most gasoline contains ethanol, continued use (every other tank or more) of BG44K can mix and produce unsafe amounts of ketones which can damage the injectors and the fuel pump, and possible make the gas and exhaust vapors more toxic (ethanol by itself raises the toxicity of the exhaust by an astonishingly disturbing amount, at the expense of lower carbon oxides)

i add techron to my gas at a concentration of 1 bottle spread over 65 gallons. in conjunction with the acetone, ucl, and very small amounts of stabil, it should keep the engine spotless, and maintain long life of the fuel pump, which no longer whines when operating or makes grinding noises at startup. i got 6 bottles for dirt cheap at checkers and might as well use it.