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SharkmanBMW
07-29-2006, 11:05 AM
http://www.automotoportal.com/article/BMW_Night_Vision_video

GoldenOne
07-29-2006, 11:16 AM
nifty feature...i think mercedes actually used this first in their fancy s500

Macv
07-29-2006, 02:40 PM
Wow, thats pretty neat. They have to have something to make up for iDrive....

SharkmanBMW
07-29-2006, 03:09 PM
Mercedes did it first (as they did with every other safety invention we now consider normal in our cars - belts, airbags...)

Hopefully BMW can get it up on the windscreen instead of the display on the dash, no one wants to take their eyes off the road to look down for long!

ThoreauHD
07-29-2006, 03:41 PM
This monitor will end up causing more crashes then not. Yes, windshield projection is necessary when the point is not to take your focus off the windshield.

Although its a nice stalker feature- you can drive without your lights on at night and scare the **** outta the cops. They really hate when you turn your lights off while going 80.

Espen
07-29-2006, 03:53 PM
Mercedes did it first (as they did with every other safety invention we now consider normal in our cars - belts, airbags...)

Hopefully BMW can get it up on the windscreen instead of the display on the dash, no one wants to take their eyes off the road to look down for long!

Actually Volvo invented the seatbelts

blackpawn5
07-29-2006, 04:36 PM
Where can i aquire this? besides buying a new seven series

saj3n
07-29-2006, 05:13 PM
http://www.automotoportal.com/article/BMW_Night_Vision_video

I get a kick out of the guy & girl excersizing in the middle of the night... for realz, who rollerblades in pitch black?

GoldenOne
07-29-2006, 05:36 PM
This monitor will end up causing more crashes then not. Yes, windshield projection is necessary when the point is not to take your focus off the windshield.

how can it do that??...its the same looking out the windshield than looking at the monitor...same image except one would be able to see more from the screen...

Zeuk in Oz
07-29-2006, 06:32 PM
This monitor will end up causing more crashes then not. Yes, windshield projection is necessary when the point is not to take your focus off the windshield.

Although its a nice stalker feature- you can drive without your lights on at night and scare the **** outta the cops. They really hate when you turn your lights off while going 80.
Certainly an interesting feature, but I am not sure of the value of having the image onto a display screen.

I wonder if it could be sent to one lens of a pair of glasses or similar so that both images could be superimposed ?

genphreak
07-31-2006, 02:20 AM
http://www.automotoportal.com/article/BMW_Night_Vision_videoNotice in the video how the driver is watching the road, **not** the display in the dash?

That is because they didn't want it to be soooo obvious that this is just another dash-mounted gizmo that distracts the driver and causes accidents. In real life it sells cars and justifies a TV screen in the dash.

BMW have lost it big time- I fear they are looking for any way possible to justify their 'jetsons dash' with its mid-mount TFT game console cum tv cum safety device.

We get one of the worst road-borne hazards- people play road-roulette with Kangaroos daily here in Australia. There is no lighting on the country highways.


http://www.airninja.com/pictures/great-ocean-road/kangaroo-xing.jpg


Typically when seeing a roo on or beside the road you have 2 seconds before it gets confused and turns around, jumping 6 feet per hop directly at you when (you thought it was actually about to move back into the bush at the side of the road). Even if you could see them clear as day, you'd barely have time to avoid the little beggars- most people get 2 seconds- or less (it is so confusing for everyone, as they tend to hang around in 'mobs' of about 6-20 individuals. When you see one there's always many more you can't see either about to bounce accross the road or leap out of the grass (whre they are perfectly camouflaged) in absolute panic.

Statistically you are more likely to hit one of the 'roos you can't see. Most people drive off the road so can end up badly injured too.

I drive in the country a fair bit. The key is to look for the areas they tend to be in (river crossings and wooded areas, etc) perhaps even be very careful slow down just in case.

http://www.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au/personal/mattjb/Australia/roadsigns/roadsigns-Thumbnails/1.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

If I had night vision like that I'd have no time to react after seeing 'something' in the display (out of the corner of my eye). I'd be spending precious time registering, calculating whatr to do, let alone mapping it to the screen adn then actually brake or swerve. By then its time to **** yer pants and pray the roo doesn't come trhough the windscreen and end up injured in the car beside you- you'd be kicked to death in seconds and worse, your interior would be totalled within 2 more.

All most people would do is look for the 'thing' like this and by the time they actually see it or go to slow down it'd be just too late.

This 'kind' of technology will be good as a warning system that uses heads up display to show on the screen where a potential hazard is so you get a chance to react. It would need to be heat sensing and apply some biometric processing before alerting you to every roadside object. Even then most drivers would probably screw up trying to take notice of what it says.

http://www.wildlight.net/repository/canvasthumbs/WL150000790.jpg

A very noble cause, but strangely from BMW surely this is a waste of an approach: The more we hide in our cars behind creature comforts and safety technologies, the more of us will get rudely awakened; torn up and choking within a burning, distributed wreckage at the side of the road. BMW USA will need new lawyers too. (I can hear the chorus of customers litigating: "...but this is not what the salesman said would happen...") which of course is why it is not a heads-up display as that would be virtually impossible to defend form a suit claiming it contributed to an accident (as it probably would!)

If they wait a few year biometric processing will really be able to help, not distract. Now for all I know this thing is a bit smarter than an IR camera, but the display in the dash is pointless. A warning is a good thing, but one's eyes simply have to stay firmly on the road in dark conditions...

genphreak
07-31-2006, 02:46 AM
What starts out as a fun road trip...

http://static.flickr.com/32/64041927_713993a485_m.jpg

can end up like this in 2 seconds flat...

http://www.rogerwendell.com/images/australiatwo/kangaroo_dead.jpg

and imagine how the 5er would have looked. Most cars get written off after hitting the kangaroo body. The tail alone will take out a fender, bonnet , lights and grill. Poor ol' roo will be dead or in most cases left to die while the people drive away in denial or plain scared stupidness...


http://www.visitedplanet.com/gallerydir/Australia/New%20South%20Wales/Broken%20Hill/almost%20roadkill.jpg



Seldom does it look like this, though these guys were probably a mob of 10- the other 8 could have been right behind them... and all will scatter chaotically when they see you. At night they become blinded and startled by the headlights- often hopping straight into them.

Some truckers would use night vision to hit more roos in the bush.

http://www.scienceservingsociety.com/F/2002-11Australia/bigimages/Slide27.jpg

All trucks and most 4WDs have purpose-built "'roo bars" designed for the 'task'.

rob101
07-31-2006, 03:32 AM
thanks for the roadkill shot lol, do you have one of those when it gets hit by a roadtrain?
Looks not really like a cadavier more like some kind of explosion in a butchers shop. never really seen it happen only the aftermarth.
PS kangaroo meat is the best meat ever. I discovered its joys last month. it really is the ultimate red meat it is lean, a game meat (has more good stuff (vitamins etc. i don't know)) and can be had cheaper than beef.
wouldn't it be funny if they taught us what kinds of places roos jump out on the road when we are learning to drive and useful too. oh no wait, that makes sense. ergo is bad road policy.

genphreak
07-31-2006, 03:46 AM
LOL yea Rob, I'm sorry I didn't put a gorey enough shot for you! I was really concerned that was bad enough for most people ;)

Yes 'roo meat is always best when fresh... I'm not into scraping it off the roo bar though... I'm not mad about it but have had it twice at 'flash' restaurants. Main trouble with it is quality due to 'imperfections' in the meat caused by insect grubs and other nasties that predate the poor buggers.

:) Nick

rob101
07-31-2006, 04:02 AM
LOL yea Rob, I'm sorry I didn't put a gorey enough shot for you! I was really concerned that was bad enough for most people ;)

Yes 'roo meat is always best when fresh... I'm not into scraping it off the roo bar though... I'm not mad about it but have had it twice at 'flash' restaurants. Main trouble with it is quality due to 'imperfections' in the meat caused by insect grubs and other nasties that predate the poor buggers.

:) Nick
no glad we didn't have to see any exploded kangaroos its very..... unnatural thing to see. anyway speaking of imperfections we have kangaroo sausages in the supermarkets here. and once my friend ate one with something metallic that resembled a small shot in it.
needless to say i don't eat kangaroo sausages anymore i stick to the mince, which at $6 a kilo
is the best damned mince i've ever seen even has the heart foundation tick

PS i keep carrots in my lunch box for "nightvision" technology.

genphreak
07-31-2006, 09:08 AM
PS i keep carrots in my lunch box for "nightvision" technology.No wonder you're such a hit with the ladies up there Rob; I guess you never fail when you open the box and feel insde for a good cut lunch (?) LMAO