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Speeder 553
04-04-2006, 04:36 PM
Looking into replacing my low beams with Xenon 9006 Bulbs- 55 watts. Anyone useing these bulbs? Do you get increased visibility? How do they look in your E34?

Hypr5
04-04-2006, 05:52 PM
Looking into replacing my low beams with Xenon 9006 Bulbs- 55 watts. Anyone useing these bulbs? Do you get increased visibility? How do they look in your E34?
Are you talking about real HID or Xenon look-a-likes?

Look-a-likes do nothing at all except add some white light instead of yellow...
True Xenon does not come in 9006 format unless it's been rebased.

632 Regal
04-04-2006, 06:25 PM
do the 9006-9005 replacement to the low beams, big difference. I use the Wagner brite lights and they have lasted almost 3 years now without a burn out.

Speeder 553
04-04-2006, 06:36 PM
do the 9006-9005 replacement to the low beams, big difference. I use the Wagner brite lights and they have lasted almost 3 years now without a burn out.

Jeff,

Where do you get them? BAV?

Speeder 553
04-04-2006, 06:38 PM
Are you talking about real HID or Xenon look-a-likes?

Look-a-likes do nothing at all except add some white light instead of yellow...
True Xenon does not come in 9006 format unless it's been rebased.

Yes, the look-a-likes but, don't they illuminate the road better at night than the stock bulbs?

Speeder 553
04-04-2006, 07:19 PM
Are you talking about real HID or Xenon look-a-likes?

Look-a-likes do nothing at all except add some white light instead of yellow...
True Xenon does not come in 9006 format unless it's been rebased.


This is the info on BAV's site:
These new bulbs produce a consistantly bright, white light that is closer in color temperature to actual daylight than standard halogen bulbs. (The blue coating produces a crisp, white beam reminiscent of HID xenon headlights.) You'll enjoy increased visibility and less eye fatigue under all conditions. Please note: Low Beam Headlight And Fog Light

Part Number Description Price Qty.
H83170082 Hella High Performance Xenon Blue Bulbs - 9006 Bulb - 55 Watts - Sold as a pair
$34.95

Qube
04-04-2006, 09:38 PM
Yes, the look-a-likes but, don't they illuminate the road better at night than the stock bulbs?

In one word "NO" Not at ALL. Do not let your eye's deceive you ;) The only thing they look is a bit prettier.

If you MUST go that route, do a 9006-9005 mod with the 'look-a-likes'. At the very least, you'll get close to stock light output with the 'look-a-like' color you want.

Speeder 553
04-04-2006, 10:06 PM
In one word "NO" Not at ALL. Do not let your eye's deceive you ;) The only thing they look is a bit prettier.

If you MUST go that route, do a 9006-9005 mod with the 'look-a-likes'. At the very least, you'll get close to stock light output with the 'look-a-like' color you want.

Where can I get the best deal on the 9006-9005 mod?

Thanks

Paul in NZ
04-05-2006, 02:59 AM
what about H1R??

ILoveMPower
04-05-2006, 05:36 AM
Where can I get the best deal on the 9006-9005 mod?

Thanks

there's a writeup on bmwe34.net

just get any old type of bulb... i went with those silverstars and they seem to be a tad brighter

Speeder 553
04-05-2006, 05:59 AM
do the 9006-9005 replacement to the low beams, big difference. I use the Wagner brite lights and they have lasted almost 3 years now without a burn out.

Jeff, are you saying put the 9005 high beams (65 watt) replacement in the low beams?

Speeder 553
04-05-2006, 06:05 AM
what about H1R??

Paul,

What are H1R's? Where do I get them? Looking at BAV site and can't locate any info??

Hypr5
04-05-2006, 08:19 AM
HIR are bulbs that use Infrared... Some people say theres a difference, a lot of people say that they are no better. They are somewhat pricey, considering what they are.

If your looking for an increase of light output / visibility, higher wattage (dangerous for your housings - don't recommend it) or real HIDs is the only way to go.

632 Regal
04-05-2006, 08:36 AM
lol the wagners were like 9 bux each, i bought a case of them with the thought of em burning out. I did a lot of research before choosing them over other light bulbs.

632 Regal
04-05-2006, 08:39 AM
HAHAHAHA...look at this over priced ****!
http://www.brandsport.com/piaa9005bulbs.html

632 Regal
04-05-2006, 08:42 AM
http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?p=62021#poststop

632 Regal
04-05-2006, 08:45 AM
heres the wagners, 9.30 something each.
http://www.brandsport.com/w9006.html

dacoyote
04-05-2006, 08:48 AM
Jeff, are you saying put the 9005 high beams (65 watt) replacement in the low beams?

Yes...

Maki
04-05-2006, 09:09 AM
I've been using a fairly new +30 9005/9006 bulb, Philips Premium. So far I've seen them sold only by European vendors such as Powerbulbs.co.uk ($34/pair shipped). Naturally, I bought the 9005 high beam bulbs and whittled the sockets so they'd fit the low-beam lamps and harness.

I've had the bulbs in the car for about 9 months and drive for about an hour after dark on rural roads every weeknight. The increase in light output has been quite noticeable. Combined with the fog/driving lights (I no longer ridicule people who drive with their "fog lights" on -- with the E34 they really do light up the right shoulder on rural roads) I actually feel like I have enough illumination to navigate safely at highway speeds.

I have HIR bulbs in another car with projector headlamps, BTW (Toshiba 9012s I purchased from Daniel Stern Lighting), and I believe the Philips Premium high beam bulbs come pretty close to the HIRs in performance at half the price. Now we'll see which bulbs have the longest life!

fkong777
04-05-2006, 10:19 AM
Piaa is prob the best bulbs you can buy pricey tho. Give out great colors. . I tried hyper white and Arctic white bulb but they are not much brighter.

Now I'm running 8000k HID 9006 conversion for 2-3 years now.. Love it. Once you use HID you will SEE there is no comparison.. about $200 now on ebay. it is well worth it even if Xenon-like bulbs are only $20-50..

BTW.. free form headlight actually give out more light output but ellipsoid have a better cut off.

David Shealey
04-05-2006, 10:40 AM
Looking into replacing my low beams with Xenon 9006 Bulbs- 55 watts. Anyone useing these bulbs? Do you get increased visibility? How do they look in your E34?

There is NO halogen type bulb that even comes close to REAL HID, period.

I converted my K1200LT motorcycle to HID low beam, and did the same to my '94 525i.

On the motorcycle and car both I tried the whitest high beam bulbs I could find, PIAA extreme white on the bike, and SilverStars on the 525. Both efforts look like pale yellow candles in comparison to the 4-5000K low beam HIDs. I also have a 2001 740iL, which has HID low beams from the factory, same thing, the Silver Star high beam bulbs look pale and yellow in comparison.

DO NOT fall for the high temp HID conversions, 6000K plus. They give out LESS useable light the higher the Kelvin temp. They just get bluer, less lumens output, and piss off oncoming drivers to no end.

There is a good reason OEMs (Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, etc.) use 4200-5000K only.

bfd
04-05-2006, 01:08 PM
heres the wagners, 9.30 something each.
http://www.brandsport.com/w9006.html

OK, Bruno's website calls for modifying a 9005 lightbulb to fit our cars. The Wagner at this link is a 9006, which I guess is the same as the stock bulb.

So the question is does this Wagner 9006 put out the same light as the modified 9005, without having to do the modification? Thanks!

Speeder 553
04-05-2006, 08:35 PM
Looking into replacing my low beams with Xenon 9006 Bulbs- 55 watts. Anyone useing these bulbs? Do you get increased visibility? How do they look in your E34?

Bought a pair of 9006 Xtec 4000K (80w) bulbs made by Apexcone from my Mech for $34.00 today. They have a lifetime guarantee Got a chance to try them out driving tonight and they are much brighter and whiter than my old yellow halogens. I can see much better and that is the main thing I wanted. Plus they look so much brighter/whiter which I really like.

Here is a link if you want to check them out.
http://www.xenonexpert.com/xtechalogenbulbs.html

Speeder 553
04-06-2006, 07:03 AM
http://www.xenonexpert.com/images/bluebulb1.jpg
These bulbs carry the same lifetime warranty the Xtec products are known for. That's right. A bulb burns in 3 months? We send you another one for free.....Nobody does that.