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Loppy
02-15-2006, 11:25 AM
...NOT to use 87 octane. :( :D

Last fill up, I guess out of habit (wifes Sequoia doesn't care and I'm a long dime Diesel guy) I put the junk in. MAN does she hate me now. Low end pinging, BIG loss of that "freight train" like pull and I think I'm smelling fuel through the exhaust. She's pissed off!

I'm guessing, the motor is retarding the timing and fawking up the whole program?

I have a half tank left. Should I octane boost it and fill with 92? Just run it out? Drain the tank? (no, not that last one... :D )

winfred
02-15-2006, 11:28 AM
id just run it down and fill with preimum

632 Regal
02-15-2006, 11:37 AM
says right on the filler cap to use at least 89 octane.

dacoyote
02-15-2006, 11:46 AM
Yeah... it says 89 on the cap.....

DaCan23
02-15-2006, 11:57 AM
Expected a RTFM comment... LOLOLOL


Yeah... it says 89 on the cap.....


says right on the filler cap to use at least 89 octane.

dacoyote
02-15-2006, 11:59 AM
Expected a RTFM comment... LOLOLOL

why RTFM when it's on the cap that you have to take off to fill it up...

DaCan23
02-15-2006, 12:00 PM
RTFM. is less typing


why RTFM when it's on the cap that you have to take off to fill it up...

dacoyote
02-15-2006, 12:01 PM
RTFM. is less typing

Maybe... RTFC?? :-)

DaCan23
02-15-2006, 12:05 PM
hahahahahhahah.... perfect!!!!!



Maybe... RTFC?? :-)

dacoyote
02-15-2006, 12:19 PM
hahahahahhahah.... perfect!!!!!

:-)

Qube
02-15-2006, 12:44 PM
Penny pincher eh? Don't tell me it's 87 octane from an 'off-brand' station too?

dacoyote
02-15-2006, 12:54 PM
Penny pincher eh? Don't tell me it's 87 octane from an 'off-brand' station too?

LOL....

angrypancake
02-15-2006, 12:56 PM
arghhhhhh the PO before me ran 87 in the car for 2 years!!!!!!! and then when I bought it left it on E, checked the range function, 17 miles, yeah the trip home was 5 hours. gee, thanks. (there's much more to this rant but dif topic)

Loppy
02-15-2006, 02:02 PM
Penny pincher eh? Don't tell me it's 87 octane from an 'off-brand' station too?

Money aint the issue. I have pleanty of that. Just stupid. never had a car that really cared before. Been driving diesel trucks for 10 years.

angrypancake
02-15-2006, 02:48 PM
we forgive you, and Mark will love you if you get an EAT chip. plus it requires that you run 91. your car will love you and you it.

mattyb
02-15-2006, 04:12 PM
Rtfmusc!!!

mattyb
02-15-2006, 04:14 PM
so while we are at it what else is there u might need help with? no you cant use vegimite instead of bearing grease!

mzarifkar
02-15-2006, 04:15 PM
we forgive you, and Mark will love you if you get an EAT chip. plus it requires that you run 91. your car will love you and you it.
i love your signature!

Blitzkrieg Bob
02-15-2006, 04:23 PM
At least you didn't fill it up with diesel....Then it wouldn't run at all

angrypancake
02-15-2006, 04:52 PM
really? my gas cap says 89 or better. thats cool though.

digitaldragon03
02-15-2006, 05:00 PM
i run 91 just because the car seems more lively that way.

ryan roopnarine
02-15-2006, 05:31 PM
really? my gas cap says 89 or better. thats cool though.


i guess i am wrong. i am pretty certain that i saw documentation for an e32 m30 that only called for 87 aki. sorry. i wonder if i am confusing it with the m20 or such. at any rate, the motor is only 9.0 compression, i can't imagine that too much damage was done, especially since IIRC (again) the e24s and other older m30s used the 87 aki.

athflying79
02-15-2006, 09:02 PM
i guess i am wrong. i am pretty certain that i saw documentation for an e32 m30 that only called for 87 aki. sorry. i wonder if i am confusing it with the m20 or such. at any rate, the motor is only 9.0 compression, i can't imagine that too much damage was done, especially since IIRC (again) the e24s and other older m30s used the 87 aki.

My 91 M30 asks for and runs very happily on 87 or above.

Paul in NZ
02-16-2006, 02:45 AM
fill er up with HIGH octane now

Boom n Zoom
02-16-2006, 07:35 AM
Personally I would drop some Octane Boost 101 into it and run it out, but that's me. :)

It won't hurt to top it off with some 91 Octane though it will help to stop the plugs fouling and the oxygen sensor will clean up a little.


Down here in the land of Velcro suits........ you know, Australia! :D

All the caps I have seen are 95 Octane or better.

I run BP Ultimate (98 Octane) in all three Cars and the Bike (even the two stroke mower gets it)

If it hadn't been for the Bike dropping a cylinder (badly fouled plug. FYI its a Ducati so dropping one is bad believe me:( ) I would have still been running the detergent filled Optimax (which is now 100 Octane with the 10% Ethanol).

Interesting and somewhat surprising that you guys in the US don't have a higher Octane rated fuel than 91 is what I was getting at.

Boom n Zoom :)

angrypancake
02-16-2006, 07:38 AM
we have 93 as well, but aren't there differences between the US measurement and the Down Under octance ratings? What I mean is 95 down there is like our 89? Perhaps I'm just rambling.

Boom n Zoom
02-16-2006, 07:45 AM
we have 93 as well, but aren't there differences between the US measurement and the Down Under octance ratings? What I mean is 95 down there is like our 89? Perhaps I'm just rambling.


I'm not sure angrypancake, it would be interesting to check out. I wouldn't be surprised if there are differences between the way our governments decide to measure things.

Lets face it, eventually you guys will be living in the times ten fantasy land that we have.

The DeciMetric system :)

BnZ

dacoyote
02-16-2006, 07:48 AM
we have 93 as well, but aren't there differences between the US measurement and the Down Under octance ratings? What I mean is 95 down there is like our 89? Perhaps I'm just rambling.

In the US there should be a sticker on how they get the number... I would assume it's the same deal in Oz

angrypancake
02-16-2006, 07:52 AM
US and Australia (http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?t=15798&highlight=aki+index)


Aus. uses Ron numbers..
87 AKI = 92 ron
91 AKI = 95 ron
94 AKI = 98 ron

aki = anti knock index

DanH
02-16-2006, 09:11 AM
If you don't have a performance chip for your US model M30, then it only needs 87 octane AKI. Unless you get knocking by using it.

AKI is average of RON and MON. (More info on octane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating).)

AKI = (RON + MON) / 2

You are not going to see much if any benefit of running anything of a higher octane since the stock chip is de-tuned to run on 87. I think this was done for US emissions standards. However, this may not be true for Euro and Oz model M30s.

I agree, do not get the cheap gas station stuff, but you're donating your money to the oil companies by buying the highest octane if you dont need it.

M20s may also have the same requirements.



My 91 M30 asks for and runs very happily on 87 or above.

Jay 535i
02-16-2006, 12:17 PM
Go put some high octane stuff in it now.

The mid-grade fuel at the pump is just premium mixed with cheap stuff anyway.