GO FISHING, use SLABSAUCE Fishing Attractant
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: [E34] M60B30 3.0 Optimal air intake.

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    116

    Default

    Regarding the air intake project I have fit an M62 4.4 throttle valve to the M60 throttle valve housing. I have calibrated this throttle valve properly and when closed, it is closed without sticking to the house. When opened, it is 100% opened.

    I have polished the house and the valve in the direction of the airflow.

    I will compare this to the original 4.0 valve and the 3.0 valve+housing.

    1 - M60B40 housing + M62B44 valve compared to the M60B40 housing + 4.0 original valve:
    - definately makes the car slower on pickup. This throttle valve contains a buffer plate which means it restricts some flow right after you press the accelerator. This is probably done to ensure the 4.0 doesn't launch itself. On a 3.0 this plate is not nessecary;
    - definately faster / quicker / more powerful above +/- 3200 RPM all the way to redline;
    The gain is high RPM horsepower and a noticeable sacrifice of low end torque.

    2 -
    M60B40 housing + M62B44 valve compared to the M60B30 housing + 3.0 original valve:
    - I think the car is a bit slower on pickup. It is almost not noticeable but I do have the feeling it is a bit slower;- definately faster / quicker / more powerful above +/- 3200 RPM all the way to redline. Even compared to situation 1, it feels even faster. The throttle valve is now non-restrictive and totalle flat open;
    The gain is high RPM horsepower sacrificing a little bit of low end torque.

    On my rebuilt engine I will also fit the 4.0 intake WITHOUT the 3.0 buffer plate. I will basically turn the entire car into a 4.0 intake.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Eastern Tennessee USi
    Posts
    14,839

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank87 View Post
    Regarding the air intake project I have fit an M62 4.4 throttle valve to the M60 throttle valve housing. I have calibrated this throttle valve properly and when closed, it is closed without sticking to the house. When opened, it is 100% opened.

    I have polished the house and the valve in the direction of the airflow.

    I will compare this to the original 4.0 valve and the 3.0 valve+housing.

    1 - M60B40 housing + M62B44 valve compared to the M60B40 housing + 4.0 original valve:
    - definately makes the car slower on pickup. This throttle valve contains a buffer plate which means it restricts some flow right after you press the accelerator. This is probably done to ensure the 4.0 doesn't launch itself. On a 3.0 this plate is not nessecary;
    - definately faster / quicker / more powerful above +/- 3200 RPM all the way to redline;
    The gain is high RPM horsepower and a noticeable sacrifice of low end torque.

    2 -
    M60B40 housing + M62B44 valve compared to the M60B30 housing + 3.0 original valve:
    - I think the car is a bit slower on pickup. It is almost not noticeable but I do have the feeling it is a bit slower;- definately faster / quicker / more powerful above +/- 3200 RPM all the way to redline. Even compared to situation 1, it feels even faster. The throttle valve is now non-restrictive and totalle flat open;
    The gain is high RPM horsepower sacrificing a little bit of low end torque.

    On my rebuilt engine I will also fit the 4.0 intake WITHOUT the 3.0 buffer plate. I will basically turn the entire car into a 4.0 intake.
    I think the only solution is to play with the cam timing to bring it alive at lower RPM's. The only reason I think they have so much overlap is to eliminate detonation sub 3200. I used to chose cam profiles so I could run 10+:1 but it didn't kill much torque since the engines I tuned were 450+ CI.
    95 E34 530I V2.37
    ===========
    Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

    John F. Kennedy

Similar Threads

  1. M60B30 Mileage after cam timing
    By 632 Regal in forum 5 Series BMW
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-06-2019, 07:51 PM
  2. M60B30 stroking
    By Frank87 in forum 5 Series BMW
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-24-2016, 08:28 PM
  3. 530iT M60b30 rattles when hot
    By 31Hertz in forum 5 Series BMW
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 10-18-2010, 04:57 AM
  4. crank sensor resistance M60b30
    By Ross in forum 5 Series BMW
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-27-2008, 06:27 PM
  5. Looking for M60b30 to buy
    By MagicMike in forum 5 Series BMW
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 04-30-2007, 10:44 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •