Ok Jeff and did a deal and i have the 5 cd set of the tis etk ksd and the electrica trouble shooting discs.Jeff recomends that i run the various applications from the cds which makes perfect sense.However I have the sysadm installed from the etk disc and it always wants to install the whole etk(or whatever)Also i had the etk installed and punched in my chassis no but it did not seem to pick up the production date..I had ti enter that manually.Can i set my car as the "default" or do i have to fill in the settings every time i open etk?.Sorry for the long post