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    Default Troubleshooting BMW hydraulic bucket tappet problems

    The two most common reasons for the replacement of BMW hydraulic bucket tappets (HVA) found in M42, M44, M50, M52, M54, M60, M62, S50, S52 and S62 engines are: tapping/rattling noise from the valve train area or a binding HVA element. Tapping/rattling noise from the valve train area may have various different causes depending on engine oil level, engine/oil temperature, when the noise is heard (cold start, engine hot), etc.

    The following Complaint/Cause and Repair scenarios will assist in troubleshooting for HVA element noise:

    Situation 1A

    Tapping / rattling noises from the area of the valve train up to 20 seconds after a cold start.

    Cause
    These noises can be traced back to the higher viscosity of cold mineral based engine oil. For a brief moment insufficient oil reaches the high pressure chamber ofthe HVA element via the high pressure valve after start up. This results in clearance between the HVA element and the camshaft lobe which then causes a tapping/rattling noise.
    Influencing factors for this complaint:

    • Viscosity of engine oil used
    • Ambient temperature
    This condition is not caused by mechanical damage to any engine components and has no damaging effect on the service life ofthe engine.

    Repair

    Check that oil viscosity is matched to ambient temperature range at which the vehicle is being operated. Refer to Temperature/Viscosity chart for further information.

    Situation 1B

    Tapping/rattling noises in the area of the valve train for the first 8 -10 consecutive cold starts. This condition usually occurs after the engine has been turned off at normal operating temperature and then not warmed up to full operating temperature during the next series of cold starts. This operating condition can occur, for example, on new vehicles.

    Cause

    Hot engine oil initially escapes from the oil galley of the HVA elements when the engine is stopped. A small amount of oil also escapes through the gaps between the HVA elements and the HVA housings in the cylinder head.

    The oil then contracts while the engine is cooling down and allows air to enter the oil system. During the subsequent cold start, this air can be forced into the HVA elements (causing air pockets) through the build up of engine oil pressure. The resulting clearance between the HVA elements and the camshaft lobes causes the tapping/rattling noises.

    This HVA tapping/rattling noise is not dependent on the amount oftime the engine is off, but rather on:

    • The temperature of the engine when it was turned off (operating temperature – hot)
    • The number of subsequent cold starts without the engine being warmed up to operating temperature.

    Repair
    Run the engine to dissipate (bleed) the air trapped in the high pressure chamber of the HVA elements.


    Refer to the HVA bleeding procedure described below.

    Situation 1C
    Tapping/rattling noises in the area of the valve train after extreme cornering/lateral acceleration (engine oil level at or below minimum).

    Note: These valve train noises will not stop until the engine is run for approximately 10 – 15 minutes at an engine speed of at least 2,500 rpm with the oil at the proper level.

    Cause

    During extreme corneringllateral acceleration with the engine oil level at or below minimum, air can be drawn in by the oil pump (oil foaming). The air which is drawn into the oil system can enter the HVA elements. The resulting clearance between the HVA elements and the camshaft lobes causes the tapping/rattling noises.

    Repair

    Run the engine to dissipate (bleed) the air trapped in the high pressure chamber ofthe HVA elements. Refer to the HVA bleeding procedure described below.

    HVA Bleeding Procedure:

    • Check oil level – correct if necessary.
    • Let engine idle at operating temperature with the hood open to verify valve train tapping/rattling noise.
    • If a tapping/rattling noise can be heard from the valve train, run the engine for 3 minutes without load at approximately 2,500 to 3,000 rpm (bleeding procedure).
    • Then with the engine at idle listen for valve train noises again.
    Note: Only listen for noises when the engine has reached minimum oil pressure, i.e. after a waiting period (at idle) of approximately 15 – 30 seconds.
    • If no more noises can be heard, the test procedure is complete. No further action is necessary, the engine is working properly.
    • If the tapping/rattling noises can still be heard, the bleeding procedure must be repeated (run the engine for 3 minutes at 2,500 – 3,000 rpm).If necessary, repeat this procedure up to five times.
    • If the tapping/rattling noises can still be heard, the bleeding procedure must be performed one final time for approximately 15 minutes.
    • If no more noises can be heard, the test procedure is complete. No further action is necessary, the engine is working properly.

    If the tapping/ rattling noise is still heard after performing the above HVA Bleeding Procedure the following scenarios will assist in further troubleshooting for HVA element noise:


    If the noise is coming from all HVA elements an oil supply problem is the most likely cause.

    Check engine oil pressure as outlined in the appropriate repair manual.

    If the oil pump pressure (at idle = minimum pressure or regulated =maximum pressure) is below specification a visual inspection of the oil pump and oil pump pick up in the oil pan should be performed with emphasis on the pick up gasket and control valve O-ring were applicable.

    Note: A faulty oil pump control valve O-ring or oil pump pick up gasket (slight tear in O-ring or gasket) may not always result in a low oil pressure indication when performing an oil pressure check. The air drawn in to the lubrication system via a defective gasket or O-ring will cause oil foaming and HVA tapping/rattling noises.

    If the noise is still coming from an individual HVA element after performing the above HVA Bleeding Procedure the suspected element(s) can be isolated as follows:

    • Remove cylinder head cover.
    • Turn the engine over (normal direction of rotation) until the camshaft lobe ofthe HVA element to be checked is pointing away from the HVA element (engine valve completely closed).
    • Repeatedly apply a force ofapproximately 2.25 ft.lbs to the HVA element with your thumb or using a folding arm tool BMW special tool number 90 88 6 009 321 (included in the BMW assembly wedge kit P/N 90 88 6 009 310) or a hard wood wedge.

    If the HVA element collapses slightly as though it is spring loaded, this is a sign that air is trapped in the high pressure chamber.


    Apply a force of approximately 4.50 – 6.75 ft.lbs for 10 – 15 seconds to the HVA element using your thumb, folding arm tool or a hard wood wedge.

    If clearance between the camshaft lobe and the HVA element is created when the force is applied, this indicates that the check valve incorporated in the HVA element is not closing/sealing properly due to contamination.

    • Release the applied force from the HVA element and using a feeler gauge measure the clearance between the HVA element and the camshaft lobe.

    If any clearance is detected this indicates that the HVA element is sticking.

    • Conduct the checks as described above on all HVA elements.
    • Mark any suspect "soft" HVA element(s) for further examination.

    Remove HVA elements and visually inspect. Replace any suspect "soft" HVA element(s) and check others for extreme wear (deep grooves, scratches, etc.) which may also need to be replaced.

    Note: Always reinstall used HVA elements in the same bore which they were removed from. This prevents possible binding due to different wear patterns between the bore in the HVA housing and HVA element.

    Situation 2
    Binding HVA element.

    Cause
    An HVA element which is binding (element stuck in the extended position) will not allow avalve (intake or exhaust) to seat properly causing valve seat leakage.

    This type of HVA failure may not cause a tapping/rattling noise but the customer complaint may be, "engine runs rough during the warm up phase and runs good when warmed up" and/or the "Check Engine" lamp is on.

    If the "Check Engine" lamp is illuminated due to a binding HVA element(s) one or more misfire fault codes may be set in the Engine Control Module (ECM/DME).

    Note: Basic troubleshooting should be performed First before checking for a binding HVA element to eliminate all other possible factors/components which could set the misfire faults such as low fuel level, a faulty spark plug, etc.


    Troubleshooting Tips:

    • If there is a binding HVA element in one or more cylinders as described above a misfire fault can typically be reproduced in the affected cylinderfs) by duplicating the conditions in which the misfire occurred according to the DME/ECM fault code description i.e., at engine temperature = X, engine speed = X, etc.

    • A binding HVA element which is causing a misfire in one specific cylinder will not "move" to an other cylinder and will always cause a misfire fault in the affected cylinder.

    • Performing the "Smooth-Running" test (found in the DME control unit functions section of DIS) will assist in pin pointing a cylinder with a binding HVA element.
    A cylinder with a binding HVA element will indicate a high reading when compared to the other good cylinders.

    • Since a binding HVA element may in some cases be intermittent (engine only runs rough when cold) if a cylinder leak down check is used for troubleshooting this should be performed when the problem exists, for example: compare the cylinder leakage rates to each other with a cold engine to determine the cylinder with the extreme leakage rate.

    A cylinder with a binding HVA element will indicate a leakage rate above 15%.

    Remove suspected HVA elements and visually inspect.

    • A binding HVA element will typically have a high pressure piston (located in the center of the HVA element body) which extends out approximately 3 mm further when compared to the other HVA elements removed from the cylinder head.

    Replace any binding HVA element(s) and check others for extreme wear (deep grooves, scratches, etc.) which may also need to be replaced.

    Note: Always reinstall used HVA elements in the same bore which they were removed from. This prevents possible binding due to different wear patterns between the bore in the HVA housing and HVA element.


    Some or all of this information was provided by the AutomotiveParts Remanufacturers Association (APRA). For more information on technical bulletins available through APRA call 703-968-2772 or visit www.AutoBulletins.com.

    Source: the very interesting: http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2009...ppet-problems/

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    that's very interesting Shogun, does it apply to e34 production years and all engines. I do have tapping noises but considered that it was just a 20 year old engine that needed some love and a few dollars spent

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    I had ticking on startup, come to find the oil filter was chinese and did not fit right. It apparently got crushed and did not hold the drain valve closed. Installed a Mann when I changed the oil and no problems. The oil light does not stay on for a few seconds like it did.
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