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    has anyone with Sport seats ever found a detailed illustrated guide to which cables operate which function under the seats? My drivers side seat started twisting ,right side isn't moving and I believe i have trimmed the sheath on the correct cable, pulled the cable slightly out of the sheath and pushed it down in while turning it to feel it slip back into the slot at the opposite end then pushed the sheath back in to the collar and into the motor as much as i was able and while i hear and feel the motor operating its just not working, no matter how forcefully i shove the sheath in,like the cable end just isn't reaching the slot. I nearly ripped my thumbnail off trying to pull it out and i couldn't get the metal collar out just ripped the sheath out.. Anyone have a decent L Sport Seat in parchment?? My poor hand....

    EDIT:; Found what i was looking for.Thanks anyway.
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    Common problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehu
    has anyone with Sport seats ever found a detailed illustrated guide to which cables operate which function under the seats? My drivers side seat started twisting ,right side isn't moving and I believe i have trimmed the sheath on the correct cable, pulled the cable slightly out of the sheath and pushed it down in while turning it to feel it slip back into the slot at the opposite end then pushed the sheath back in to the collar and into the motor as much as i was able and while i hear and feel the motor operating its just not working, no matter how forcefully i shove the sheath in,like the cable end just isn't reaching the slot. I nearly ripped my thumbnail off trying to pull it out and i couldn't get the metal collar out just ripped the sheath out.. Anyone have a decent LF Sport Seat in parchment?? My poor hand....

    EDIT:; Found what i was looking for.Thanks anyway.
    Would you mind sharing what you found? I am having the same problem with my seats and would like to get it fixed.

    Thanks

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    in this thread are two links and a written description of which motrs do what and how One thing i didn't try was unbolting the motors . I have seen I think its Winfred's write up with pics before but never noticed how he had the motor unbolted to get at the insert more easily. I was doing it all with everything in place. You have a very hard time getting any leverage doing it like that and invariably end up with the cables less than optimally fitted i think.

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    wait how has it just started twisting?
    -Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Son
    wait how has it just started twisting?
    Well. My driver's seat's base rear had stopped responding to the control. The front goes up and down normally but not the back so I can't change the elevation of the seat. I began by pulling the wrong cable. I actually pulled the cable operating the left seat back movement and discovering this put it back in but didn't get it in well enough,I didn't heat the collar just shoved the sheath in with brute force and it eventually popped out so yesterday I tried to refit that cable sheath properly and somehow the other side stopped responding so now the right side of the driver's seat is stuck in an unfavorably upright angle. I was having a hard time identifying which motor and cable handled the right seat back, I may have just been distracted by activity going on around me and couldn't concentrate on what I was trying to do so i figured if i saw a diagram or pictures pointing out which cable was which and which motor ran what functions i'd be able to work with out going through a process of elimination saving me time and aggravation. The descriptions i found identified the motors adequately and i shall soon attempt to cut off a bit more from the sheath on the right seat back cable. I dread discovering a stripped gear wheel as described in one of those articles, I need to drive the car and if the damned seat is practically bolt upright that won't be much fun.
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    You could always swap parts from one seat to the other if you need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehu
    Well. My driver's seat's base rear had stopped responding to the control. The front goes up and down normally but not the back so I can't change the elevation of the seat. I began by pulling the wrong cable. I actually pulled the cable operating the left seat back movement and discovering this put it back in but didn't get it in well enough,I didn't heat the collar just shoved the sheath in with brute force and it eventually popped out so yesterday I tried to refit that cable sheath properly and somehow the other side stopped responding so now the right side of the driver's seat is stuck in an unfavorably upright angle. I was having a hard time identifying which motor and cable handled the right seat back, I may have just been distracted by activity going on around me and couldn't concentrate on what I was trying to do so i figured if i saw a diagram or pictures pointing out which cable was which and which motor ran what functions i'd be able to work with out going through a process of elimination saving me time and aggravation. The descriptions i found identified the motors adequately and i shall soon attempt to cut off a bit more from the sheath on the right seat back cable. I dread discovering a stripped gear wheel as described in one of those articles, I need to drive the car and if the damned seat is practically bolt upright that won't be much fun.
    OMG that sounds like chaos.....................sell me your rondels?
    -Mike

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    I found and fixed at least my driver seat back twist. I had failed to account for the Memory Counter which i read about in Winfred's write up. His estimate of the additional length also in my case was about 1/4 short of what i ultimately needed exposed so i was incorrectly thinking I'd cut enough off but when i removed the counter and could see how far through that i was getting the cable i saw i needed to cut another 1/4" which i did and bingo ,back in business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Son
    OMG that sounds like chaos.....................sell me your rondels?
    Honestly I'm not sure you'd want them. They have more than a little curb rash though not all of it actually from hitting curbs mostly potholes. I haven't been able to polish them all winter,it just kept snowing and snowing and snowing and snowing and snowing and... sigh... snowing and snowing and snowing...lol.. and snowing.. so they're kind of yellowing in some places from God knows what. Plus I've had no less than FOUR straightenings done and i forget to which wheels. All are within usable tolerance presently but I'd hope there would be better available though i dare not offer them here for sale or this post will be deleted like the last one i just posted about my sub frame mounts.....(?????????)
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