nortons both thanks to some of you guys who offered...
Didn't find any viruses... then I started poking around on the net in virus software and tried one called nod32 that i saw on a bunch of IT sites recommended.... On this machine it found one old virus and on my other machine it found 7 trojan horses and one virus... and it was fast scanning 260 gigabytes... It was a 30 day trial at www.nod32.com but I may actually pay for this one and use it....