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    Default Weird electrical problem (need electrical guru help)

    alright i'm gonna need some serious help here
    1990 bmw 525ia
    here's my list

    power windows/sunroof don't work
    central locking doesn't work
    obc is lit very dimly, can't read display unless at really weird angle
    gear indicator is barely visible
    wipers only work on full
    blower only works on full
    turn signal lever acts up(turning lights act eradically then work fine)
    back door lights don't work(could be bulbs)

    what works
    power mirrors, heated seats, window switches light up(dimly), interior lights work, all head lights/brake lights and fogs work fine

    i changed the fusable link, picked up rm, gm, ccm, lkm from a 92 525ia
    replaced all the fuses(front and back)


    there's a clicking coming from the power protection relay)

    any ideas??

    !!!edit!!!
    i checked on another post i don't have anything in power protection relay
    pin 8, nothing there!
    Last edited by wyze; 05-03-2007 at 11:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyze
    alright i'm gonna need some serious help here
    1990 bmw 525ia
    here's my list

    power windows/sunroof don't work
    central locking doesn't work
    obc is lit very dimly, can't read display unless at really weird angle
    gear indicator is barely visible
    wipers only work on full
    blower only works on full
    turn signal lever acts up(turning lights act eradically then work fine)
    back door lights don't work(could be bulbs)

    what works
    power mirrors, heated seats, window switches light up(dimly), interior lights work, all head lights/brake lights and fogs work fine

    i changed the fusable link, picked up rm, gm, ccm, lkm from a 92 525ia
    replaced all the fuses(front and back)


    there's a clicking coming from the power protection relay)

    any ideas??

    !!!edit!!!
    i checked on another post i don't have anything in power protection relay
    pin 8, nothing there!
    Has the pin 8 dropped out the bottom of the holder?

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    nothing there, traced the wire back some, and nothing

    i jumped pin 6 & pin 8 from underneath(relay in place), and the windows/sunroof etc didn't work

    but the central locking now works???

    edit

    new info, winsheild washer fluid pump doesn't work either, but the heavy detergent pump works
    Last edited by wyze; 05-03-2007 at 03:46 AM.

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    According to my Bently pin 8 should have a red/rgey wire to it which connects to the red/grey wire at pin 6 so your jumper ought to solve that.
    I'll give the rest some thought and reply later
    "The gas pedal wouldn't go to the floor if it weren't meant to be there"

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    Try jumping pins 2 & 6 at the pp relay to see if the windows work.
    The OBC sounds like the bulb only.
    I don't understand the prob with the turn signal stalk.
    The fan could be the "sword", covered here, search sword.

    Is this car new to you or do you have some history? Did all this stuff go at once? Sounds like a bunch of unrelated issues to me.
    "The gas pedal wouldn't go to the floor if it weren't meant to be there"

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    unfortunately i bought the car as is for a really low price, and these problems were already present

    as for the turn, i traced it to a loose wire

    i'll check out the sword repairs tonight

    i'll jump pins 2 & 6 when i get time later tonight and i'll give you the results

    thanks!!

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    alright some more info

    i jumped 2 & 6 nothing, i'm getting 12 volts across the pins

    the pp relay has stopped clicking

    fuse 30 is only giving me(7.5amp) 0.19 volts ---> going to replace wire and let you know what happens

    installing jumper between 6 & 8 on pp relay

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    alright replaced the wires at fuse 30, now getting 12 volts but still no windows

    tried jumping pins 2 & 6 again nothing (but still getting 12 volts), all other fuses in rear are all still getting 12 volts

    no idea?

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    swapped gm and rm still no diff --- but sounds like relay module is clicking?

    haven't heard that before

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