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    Default OT: Who came first?

    The chicken or the Egg?
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    The egg - that what we consider today as the chicken is a genetic anomaly which has prevailed. This genetic anomaly was at some point bred by its predecessors, and in order for it to see the light of day it must have itself been inside an egg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sKilled
    The egg - that what we consider today as the chicken is a genetic anomaly which has prevailed. This genetic anomaly was at some point bred by its predecessors, and in order for it to see the light of day it must have itself been inside an egg.
    ok, i give up,,,what makes a chicken a genetic anomaly?

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    It is a genetic anomaly in the sense that it is a mutation, a mutation which was particularly successful. Well sort of, if you consider being eaten, and having ones young scrambled or turned into pancakes successful.
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    But you need a chicken to lay the Egg...but how did the chicken get there...
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    It wasn't the chicken which we know today, but its predecessor which laid the egg that contained the chicken. Oversimplified, x+y=z. One does not require z in order to have it as an end product. Bear in mind it is commonly accepted that this process is so gradual, that most biologists consider 20,000 years to be an acceptable timescale for ONE successful mutation.
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    Okay, so where did it's predecessor come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sKilled
    It is a genetic anomaly in the sense that it is a mutation, a mutation which was particularly successful. Well sort of, if you consider being eaten, and having ones young scrambled or turned into pancakes successful.
    Huh? An anomoly/mutation??? Huh? I guess, I just dont get it. A chicken is a genetic anomoly,or is it a mutation?? Kinda' hard to be both. Or either, if you are a chicken.

    Sometimes a chicken, is just a chicken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpetr
    Huh? An anomoly/mutation??? Huh? I guess, I just dont get it. A chicken is a genetic anomoly,or is it a mutation?? Kinda' hard to be both. Or either, if you are a chicken.

    Sometimes a chicken, is just a chicken.
    Mutation and "genetic anomaly" mean the same thing.

    Here's a simplified version:

    At some point in the dim, distant past, a creature that was very similar to, but not quite a chicken, laid a special egg. That egg contained a genetic anomaly, aka a mutation. When the egg hatched, out popped a creature very similar to -- but not the same as -- a chicken, and very similar to -- but not the same as -- its parent.

    When that new creature mated with the other not-quite-chicken creatures, the resulting eggs hatched. The combination of mutant not-quite-chicken DNA and normal not-quite-chicken DNA produced what we call chickens. Those chickens mated with other chickens, laid eggs, and they hatched to produce more chickens, and so on.

    As it turned out, the offspring of the non-chicken mutation and the non-chickens was dominant and successful, and so its offspring are with us today, and happen to be very tasty fried, curried, sauteed, boiled, or in soups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVoorhis
    Mutation and "genetic anomaly" mean the same thing.

    Here's a simplified version:

    At some point in the dim, distant past, a creature that was very similar to, but not quite a chicken, laid a special egg. That egg contained a genetic anomaly, aka a mutation. When the egg hatched, out popped a creature very similar to -- but not the same as -- a chicken, and very similar to -- but not the same as -- its parent.

    When that new creature mated with the other not-quite-chicken creatures, the resulting eggs hatched. The combination of mutant not-quite-chicken DNA and normal not-quite-chicken DNA produced chickens. Those chickens laid eggs, and they hatched to produce more chickens, and so on.

    As it turned out, the offspring of the non-chicken mutation and the non-chickens was dominant and successful, and so its offspring are with us today, and happen to be very tasty fried, curried, sauteed, boiled, or in soups.
    Thank you. Risking beginning a sentance with a preposition, Is that not evolution, in general 'simplified'? I was wrong,,,I thought of an anomoly, as an unexplained, unexpected change.

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